From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mathias Dahl Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tumme menu in Dired, what to do about it? Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 21:24:56 +0100 Message-ID: <7dbe73ed0602131224q543a6248o7c94a4d3766d7301@mail.gmail.com> References: <7dbe73ed0602121642h79944040vb252a904c7af93a5@mail.gmail.com> <87mzgv3yb4.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1139866386 8758 80.91.229.2 (13 Feb 2006 21:33:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 21:33:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 13 22:33:05 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F8lJV-0004OU-CO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 22:32:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F8lJU-0007EX-DB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:32:52 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1F8lH4-00054X-4H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:30:22 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1F8lH1-000530-C6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:30:21 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F8lH1-00052t-2z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:30:19 -0500 Original-Received: from [66.249.82.206] (helo=xproxy.gmail.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F8lLX-000287-Nv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:34:59 -0500 Original-Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s15so687120wxc for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 13:30:17 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=L/sdLfSB+S2dPnuM+uEQn1k0lAmeY9U+XOtcNmvBEOZNp2IVRSVtAuTyD4Oss2ApUmvwbnEDkF1gue5hxs3hirnWvEVUJJm3+X429HQLY49Mp2DYh7Tp1CRXqOsmQocv5fuXa6ZvEXnlTHJU6f3j6iR8u5KqShfNOryRD9SVjFE= Original-Received: by 10.70.128.18 with SMTP id a18mr2921415wxd; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 12:24:56 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.70.105.1 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 12:24:56 -0800 (PST) Original-To: Juri Linkov In-Reply-To: <87mzgv3yb4.fsf@jurta.org> Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:50485 Archived-At: > > Any opinions on this subject? > > Currently there are too many redundant keybindings in tumme. They all do > almost the same thing with small nuances. I agree. Some of those are leftovers from commans that I once thought was very useful but which maybe was not so useful after all. > A large number of very similar keybindings is confusing. It would be goo= d > to have one keybinding that does the most expected thing and changes its > behavior depending on context and on a prefix key. I am sure it can be optimized to be less confusing and easier to use.