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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:263354 Archived-At: On 24.01.2021 22:15, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > IMO, people who are interested only in packages bundled with Emacs > should not need to have ELPA on their local machines. Not even one > checkout of ELPA should be needed. They should just need to clone the > Emacs Git repository (modulo the submodules-related options), and > that's all. Exactly like they do today: there's no need to clone ELPA > to have a fully functional clone of the Emacs Git repository. Git allows one to check out one branch's contents, without the rest of the repository. So said people wouldn't need to download the whole of ELPA, if you were worried about that.