From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Reitter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Aquamacs distro for OS X like behavior Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 15:02:11 +0100 Message-ID: <7ca1709813602da58a139cee58fb4c63@gmail.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1112628914 24499 80.91.229.2 (4 Apr 2005 15:35:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 15:35:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 04 17:35:12 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DITbC-0007nj-1T for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 17:34:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DIT5r-0001Mg-Fr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 11:02:23 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DISrd-0004yG-KL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 10:47:41 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DISrb-0004x7-Gg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 10:47:40 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DISo1-0003Xj-6r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 10:43:57 -0400 Original-Received: from [64.233.170.202] (helo=rproxy.gmail.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DISBJ-0002F7-TX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 10:03:58 -0400 Original-Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c16so1426952rne for ; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 07:02:20 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:cc:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=ce5kORmJl9+fBHZ5YlidSF4BUmTgfw2f+MC1oebDJxsUIWFZrG9hdGH9lbs+sRq89B7wZxrXerfFI6i2hCQRwmy+cKL2wIS+M3E3kLBkl0qzudIXH6wHIxMoKRkX/U7urDTiE7vUW/oEebxJBn2TWPcPaqMj9hajrBbQhTdg2hA= Original-Received: by 10.38.12.33 with SMTP id 33mr5234284rnl; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 07:02:17 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from ?129.215.110.120? ([129.215.110.120]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id m35sm1431598rnd.2005.04.04.07.02.16; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 07:02:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Original-To: David Kastrup X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:35536 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:35536 Hi David, thanks for your friendly comments. You are of course very right in that we should list the packages that we include in the distribution. We haven't done so as we have included a lot of things from people's publicly available .emacs files in addition to a number of large customizations, e.g. those from Drew Adams. We will include a list pretty soon though. Please note that I didn't complain a lot about a lack of cooperation or attack anyone, and I also didn't suggest to make the main-stream Emacs more OS X like ("let us do everything the Apple way"). If possible, I would very much like to see that Emacs /allows/ us to customize its UI for a particular environment. We can certainly help if the friendly people handling the Mac port would like to pick up some of the UI elements, such as the keyboard shortcuts, which probably do not conflict with other functionality. I have submitted bug reports on other UI problems, such as the scrollbars (not fixed), or a little patch for the file selector (fixed) already. Best David