From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jan_Dj=E4rv?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs insists on starting dbus? Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 22:43:16 +0200 Message-ID: <7C24B120-12D9-435D-AD7A-B20F913E3E85@swipnet.se> References: <20120731.164910.1735362134333062173.hanche@math.ntnu.no> <87wr1jzuid.fsf@gmx.de> <3AD89B66-B751-4039-9563-9597161D7F68@swipnet.se> <87lihzzrcl.fsf@gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1343767408 30332 80.91.229.3 (31 Jul 2012 20:43:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 20:43:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Harald Hanche-Olsen , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Michael Albinus Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 31 22:43:26 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SwJHp-0004Jq-Dc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 22:43:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56056 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SwJHo-0004DJ-QH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 16:43:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46930) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SwJHl-00049u-Fe for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 16:43:22 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SwJHk-00035c-9X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 16:43:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mailout.melmac.se ([62.20.26.67]:54473) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SwJHk-000356-2W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 16:43:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mail01.melmac.se (mail01.melmac.se [62.20.26.80]) by mailout.melmac.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id C110C9BEB for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 22:43:17 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: (qmail 25282 invoked by uid 89); 31 Jul 2012 20:43:07 -0000 Original-Received: from h-46-59-42-18.na.cust.bahnhof.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) (boel.djarv@bdtv.se@46.59.42.18) by mail01.melmac.se with ESMTPA; 31 Jul 2012 20:43:07 -0000 Original-Received: from [172.20.199.13] (zeplin [172.20.199.13]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2799E7FA06C; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 22:43:17 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <87lihzzrcl.fsf@gmx.de> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-Received-From: 62.20.26.67 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:152046 Archived-At: Hello. 31 jul 2012 kl. 21:02 skrev Michael Albinus: > Jan Dj=E4rv writes: >=20 >>> Hmm. If this is the reason for the D-Bus autostart, shouldn't it be = set >>> impicitely when --without-dbus is applied? >>=20 >> --without-dbus means that Emacs should not provide a dbus-interface >> and not link with dbus, which is doesn't. >=20 > It does not link libdbus *explicitly*, when --without-dbus is given. Yes. >>=20 >>> And if not, this should be documented, at least. >>=20 >> It is hard to document everything that external libraries >> do. Gsettings happens to start dbus, it does so regardless of what >> Emacs does. >=20 > Maybe we could add a hint in the configure summary, when there is > --without-dbus, but not --without-gsettings and --without-gconf. > Something like >=20 > Does Emacs use -ldbus? no > Does Emacs use -lgconf? yes > You might consider to disable Gconf > Does Emacs use GSettings? yes > You might consider to disable Gsettings Why? I usually configure --without-dbus, but want Gsettings. If we for example implement the Unity menubar thing (i.e. kind of like = OSX menu bar at the top of the desktop), that will also use dbus. Must = we document every feature that might use dbus? We don't have control = over that. Jan D.