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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "'Daniel Colascione'" <daniel@censorshipresearch.org>,
	"'Stephen J. Turnbull'" <stephen@xemacs.org>
Cc: 'Chad Brown' <yandros@MIT.EDU>,
	'Stefan Monnier' <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: Obsoleting end-user-functions [was: turn-on-* type functions]
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 00:19:17 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7B36874B0D264894B3D8954FC67ADADC@us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BB954E9.7050805@censorshipresearch.org>

> > A harder, invasive idea: get rid of explicit byte-compilation,
> > by default.

What do you mean "by default"? 

> > If Emacs always byte-compiles out-of-date 
> > libraries at load time, the warnings would be generated.

If load implies byte-compile, then, again, what did you mean by "by default"?
When would non-compiled code be used - just by explicit eval (e.g. `C-x C-e')
instead of load?
 
> I've been using byte-code-cache.el for years. It reimplements
> load in lisp, byte-compiling files and automatically caching the 
> results. It's a hack, but it works very well for most things I
> try with it; to date, the only things I've seen break with it
> are tramp and nxhtml, though I haven't put as much effort as I
> should have into figuring out _why_ it breaks.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding... Are you suggesting that every load would load
byte-compiled code?

So to use the debugger I would need to explicitly eval stuff (e.g. whole
libraries)? Surely you don't mean for users to debug using byte-compiled code?





  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-05  7:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-03  1:23 turn-on-bug-reference-mode, turn-on-bug-reference-prog-mode type functions Dan Nicolaescu
2010-04-03  2:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-03 18:00 ` Richard Stallman
2010-04-03 18:17   ` Davis Herring
2010-04-03 19:43     ` Chad Brown
2010-04-04 14:26       ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-04 16:19         ` Chad Brown
2010-04-04 18:53           ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-05  2:29             ` Obsoleting end-user-functions [was: turn-on-* type functions] Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-04-05  3:11               ` Daniel Colascione
2010-04-05  7:19                 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2010-04-06  6:41                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-04-05 13:48               ` Obsoleting end-user-functions Stefan Monnier
2010-04-05 14:03                 ` Davis Herring
2010-04-05 15:52                 ` Chad Brown
2010-04-06  6:48                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-04-07  3:21                   ` Richard Stallman
2010-04-04 17:36       ` turn-on-bug-reference-mode, turn-on-bug-reference-prog-mode type functions Richard Stallman
2010-04-03 19:23   ` Dan Nicolaescu
2010-04-03 19:23   ` Stefan Monnier

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