From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What is GNU ELPA? 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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250438 Archived-At: On 15.05.2020 18:08, Howard Melman wrote: > A very > popular server is @uref{https://melpa.org, MELPA} but note > that it contains some software that recommends non-free > software. This sounds very circumspect. As a user, *I* don't have to fear something recommending me something. Or else that would imply some ostrich-like behavior. Those who avoid proprietary software, take care to do it. Those who don't, don't care. If we must say something, let's try factual: some packages in there depend on non-free software being installed. Even so, that sounds unnecessarily negative to me, given that (by some very rough estimate) the fraction of such packages there is <5%.