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From: Daniel Mendler <mail@daniel-mendler.de>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>,
	Daniel Mendler <daniel@mendler.net>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: "acm@muc.de" <acm@muc.de>,
	"kevin.legouguec@gmail.com" <kevin.legouguec@gmail.com>,
	"arstoffel@gmail.com" <arstoffel@gmail.com>,
	"monnier@iro.umontreal.ca" <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	"emacs-devel@gnu.org" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Indicate better the current use of the echo area / minibuffer [was: Controlling Isearch from minibuffer]
Date: Thu, 13 May 2021 20:07:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <79b1d1e6-e530-d4b4-cdde-a98b2dda3f60@daniel-mendler.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <SA2PR10MB447433527D5E40837374978FF3519@SA2PR10MB4474.namprd10.prod.outlook.com>

On 5/13/21 7:41 PM, Drew Adams wrote:
> It seems that this thread has been knee-jerk
> hijacked by those intent on pushing a proposal to
> base Isearch on the minibuffer.
> 
> That's NOT the intention of this thread.
> There's another thread for that - please go there
> for that.
> 
> This thread is about the current (longstanding)
> design of Isearch, which is NOT minibuffer-based.
> 
> And it's also about the echo area and minibuffer
> (independently of any concern with Isearch).

Of course, my intention was to hijack "your" thread.

Just to make it clear - my mail is related to your colorful
echo/minibuffer proposal as follows: If Isearch would not use the echo
area as it currently does, there would not even exist a need for an
indicator to make anything more clear.

But please tell me about the different indication modes you have
implemented in your packages. You have a color for the minibuffer and a
color if Isearch is active? Then you change color based on the recursion
level. Are there indicators for other states?

I have written a tiny package, which displays a "recursion indicator" in
the mode line: https://github.com/minad/recursion-indicator. Currently
it displays an arrow per recursion level and a special symbol if a
recursive minibuffer session is active. It makes sense to extend this
with more states, like Isearch. For Isearch I am using a separate
indicator in the mode line:

~~~
(defvar isearch-indicator
  (concat (propertize "Isearch" 'face 'isearch)))
(add-hook 'isearch-mode-hook
          (lambda ()
            (push isearch-indicator mode-line-misc-info)))
(add-hook 'isearch-mode-end-hook
          (lambda ()
            (setq mode-line-misc-info
                  (delq isearch-indicator mode-line-misc-info))))
~~~

Daniel



  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-13 18:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-12 23:47 Indicate better the current use of the echo area / minibuffer [was: Controlling Isearch from minibuffer] Drew Adams
2021-05-13  6:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-13 14:11   ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-05-13 14:41     ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-13 15:24       ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-05-13 16:12         ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-13 16:21         ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-05-13 16:44         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-13 16:16       ` Daniel Martín
2021-05-13 16:33         ` Daniel Mendler
2021-05-13 17:41       ` Drew Adams
2021-05-13 18:07         ` Daniel Mendler [this message]
2021-05-13 19:36           ` Drew Adams
2021-05-14 21:02             ` John Yates
2021-05-14 21:55               ` Drew Adams
2021-05-15  7:57               ` martin rudalics
2021-05-15 19:46                 ` Drew Adams
2021-05-14 18:16           ` Juri Linkov

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