From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Rogerio Senna <brbr1974@gmail.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: Apologia for bzr
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 14:05:34 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7996931e-e62c-4bc0-9f12-d6d8a1dde9b4@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALwPnO7i_6yb6Dsjfas0BtsMpYY9wyAK7+5Lz2Hm4GNaPHZqQQ@mail.gmail.com>
>>> In regard to windows, buffers and frames, we could have a mode of
>>> operation which ties each buffer to a one-window frame. That would
>>> eliminate a lot of complexity.
>>>
>>> We could even offer that as the mode of use for beginners, if that
>>> would make it easier for a new generation of hackers to become Emacs
>>> users. I don't know whether it WOULD have that effect, but if it
>>> would, I think it is a good idea.
>>
>> I'm somewhat doubtful this would be well-directed effort. In my
>> experience, he complexity that beginners react badly to is not
>> multi-window/multi-buffer, it's 1,001 spiky keystroke sequences.
>
> I couldn't help but notice that this (having each buffer tied to a
> single frame) really sounds like One On One Emacs.
;-)
But One On One Emacs does *not* tie a buffer to a frame. Only
*Help*, *Completions*, and special-display buffers have dedicated
windows (by default).
You can split windows, visit a different buffer in the same frame,
or do anything else that you might normally do in Emacs. The main
difference is that when you display a buffer it typically pops up
in a separate frame.
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2014-01-02 9:53 bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-02 11:52 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-01-02 12:20 ` Bozhidar Batsov
2014-01-02 12:28 ` Bozhidar Batsov
2014-01-02 13:05 ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2014-01-02 13:29 ` Andreas Schwab
2014-01-02 18:15 ` James Cloos
2014-01-02 22:27 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-01-02 23:57 ` James Cloos
2014-01-03 0:05 ` James Cloos
2014-01-03 9:57 ` Andreas Schwab
2014-01-03 6:15 ` joakim
2014-01-03 9:05 ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2014-01-03 11:11 ` joakim
2014-01-04 2:14 ` Samuel Bronson
2014-01-05 7:11 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-01-05 16:13 ` "No safeguard against rewriting upstream bzr history" (was: bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move) Joshua Judson Rosen
2014-01-05 18:29 ` "No safeguard against rewriting upstream bzr history" Glenn Morris
2014-01-05 18:38 ` Wolfgang Jenkner
2014-01-06 9:00 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-01-02 12:30 ` bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move Bozhidar Batsov
2014-01-02 13:08 ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2014-01-02 15:04 ` Richard Stallman
2014-01-02 15:41 ` PROPOSAL: Move to git, now that bzr is no longer a req Karl Fogel
2014-01-02 15:56 ` Bastien
2014-01-02 16:12 ` Nathan Trapuzzano
2014-01-02 16:29 ` Toby Cubitt
2014-01-02 17:10 ` Jose E. Marchesi
2014-01-02 18:26 ` Ulrich Mueller
2014-01-02 21:30 ` Mitchel Humpherys
2014-01-02 22:19 ` Sebastian Wiesner
2014-01-02 16:29 ` Fabián Ezequiel Gallina
2014-01-02 16:39 ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-02 16:44 ` Andreas Schwab
2014-01-02 16:57 ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-02 17:00 ` Andreas Schwab
2014-01-02 17:14 ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-02 17:27 ` Andreas Schwab
2014-01-02 18:06 ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-02 18:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-02 18:28 ` Andreas Schwab
2014-01-02 18:25 ` Andreas Schwab
2014-01-02 17:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-02 17:28 ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-02 17:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-02 18:34 ` Apologia for bzr Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-02 20:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-02 20:51 ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-02 21:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-02 21:15 ` Juanma Barranquero
2014-01-03 7:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-03 11:11 ` Juanma Barranquero
2014-01-03 11:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-03 11:55 ` Juanma Barranquero
2014-01-02 21:31 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-01-02 21:14 ` Toby Cubitt
2014-01-03 8:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-03 9:21 ` Yuri Khan
2014-01-03 10:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-03 10:29 ` vc.el support for staging hunks/files João Távora
2014-01-09 17:49 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2014-01-03 20:34 ` Apologia for bzr Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-01-03 21:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-04 5:01 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-01-05 10:10 ` Florian Weimer
2020-10-29 7:11 ` Drew Adams
2020-10-30 7:35 ` glossary terms linked Jean Louis
2014-01-03 14:37 ` Apologia for bzr Richard Stallman
2014-01-03 15:21 ` Toby Cubitt
2014-01-04 7:59 ` Richard Stallman
2014-01-04 8:28 ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-04 12:09 ` Lennart Borgman
2014-01-04 15:44 ` Tom
2014-01-04 19:00 ` David Kastrup
2014-01-04 19:38 ` Lennart Borgman
2014-01-04 22:09 ` Apologia for CUA mode Christophe Poncy
2014-01-04 23:39 ` Lennart Borgman
2014-01-04 19:39 ` CUA mode??? Joshua Judson Rosen
2014-01-04 23:38 ` Lennart Borgman
2014-01-05 23:15 ` Xue Fuqiao
2014-01-06 1:34 ` Lennart Borgman
2014-01-04 20:48 ` Apologia for bzr Tom
2014-01-04 21:55 ` Apologia for CUA mode (was: Apologia for bzr) Christophe Poncy
2014-01-05 10:03 ` Apologia for bzr Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-01-05 11:52 ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-05 18:14 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-01-05 14:27 ` Lennart Borgman
2014-01-05 15:27 ` David Kastrup
2014-01-05 15:56 ` Werner LEMBERG
2014-01-05 20:20 ` Richard Stallman
2014-01-05 20:35 ` Gabriel Beauchamp
2014-01-06 4:07 ` Yuri Khan
2014-01-05 20:41 ` Lennart Borgman
2014-01-05 21:31 ` Tom
2014-01-06 14:00 ` Richard Stallman
2014-01-06 14:29 ` Lennart Borgman
2014-01-06 15:14 ` John Yates
2014-01-06 20:27 ` Richard Stallman
2014-01-06 20:32 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-01-06 23:43 ` Lennart Borgman
2014-01-06 23:50 ` David Kastrup
2014-01-07 0:02 ` Lennart Borgman
2014-01-07 8:27 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-01-07 6:05 ` Christophe Poncy
2014-01-07 16:53 ` Richard Stallman
2014-01-07 0:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-07 6:21 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-01-07 7:30 ` Emacs terminology (not again!?) [was: Apologia for bzr] Drew Adams
2014-01-07 10:30 ` Lennart Borgman
2014-01-07 18:05 ` Joel Mccracken
2014-01-07 19:06 ` Drew Adams
2014-01-07 19:17 ` Lennart Borgman
2014-01-07 19:56 ` David Reitter
2014-01-07 20:31 ` Drew Adams
2014-01-07 20:42 ` Lennart Borgman
2014-01-10 2:12 ` David Reitter
2014-01-10 19:10 ` Tom
2014-01-07 19:37 ` David Kastrup
2014-01-07 19:50 ` Lennart Borgman
2014-01-07 22:24 ` Great Old One? Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-08 1:20 ` Bob Bobeck
2014-01-08 17:24 ` Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
2014-01-08 2:19 ` Jay Belanger
2014-01-08 4:55 ` Joel Mccracken
2014-01-08 3:41 ` Emacs terminology (not again!?) [was: Apologia for bzr] Richard Stallman
2014-01-08 4:14 ` Bob Bobeck
2014-01-07 11:13 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-01-07 11:27 ` Lennart Borgman
2014-01-07 12:13 ` Yuri Khan
2014-01-07 14:07 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-01-07 14:16 ` Lennart Borgman
2014-01-07 10:30 ` Apologia for bzr Jose E. Marchesi
2014-01-09 14:10 ` Per Starbäck
2014-01-09 14:48 ` Emacs terminology (not again!?) [was: Apologia for bzr] Drew Adams
2014-01-09 15:21 ` Per Starbäck
2014-01-09 16:44 ` Drew Adams
2014-01-09 17:27 ` Per Starbäck
2014-01-09 17:42 ` David Kastrup
2014-01-09 19:11 ` Tom
2014-01-09 19:38 ` David Kastrup
2014-01-10 18:10 ` Davis Herring
2014-01-10 18:12 ` David Kastrup
2014-01-09 22:24 ` Drew Adams
2014-01-10 14:37 ` Richard Stallman
2014-01-17 23:13 ` Per Starbäck
2014-01-17 23:38 ` David Kastrup
2014-01-18 0:11 ` Emacs terminology (not again!?) Glenn Morris
2014-01-18 1:47 ` Lennart Borgman
2014-01-18 1:59 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-01-18 2:59 ` Lennart Borgman
2014-01-18 3:02 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-01-18 8:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-18 8:53 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-01-18 10:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-18 8:55 ` David Kastrup
2014-01-18 10:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-18 11:01 ` David Kastrup
2014-01-18 11:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-18 8:35 ` Lennart Borgman
2014-01-18 8:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-18 12:34 ` Richard Stallman
2014-01-18 8:28 ` Emacs terminology (not again!?) [was: Apologia for bzr] Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-18 8:48 ` Lennart Borgman
2014-01-18 10:02 ` David Kastrup
2014-01-18 11:03 ` Lennart Borgman
2014-01-18 11:32 ` David Kastrup
2014-01-18 13:13 ` Sivaram Neelakantan
2014-01-18 16:24 ` Emacs terminology (not again!?) Óscar Fuentes
2014-01-18 17:46 ` David Kastrup
2014-01-18 18:55 ` Sven Axelsson
2014-01-18 19:10 ` Tom
2014-01-18 20:57 ` chad
2014-01-18 17:22 ` Emacs terminology (not again!?) [was: Apologia for bzr] Tom
2014-01-18 16:28 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-01-18 17:55 ` David Kastrup
2014-01-19 0:59 ` Emacs terminology (not again!?) Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-01-20 3:01 ` Xue Fuqiao
2014-01-19 12:10 ` Emacs terminology (not again!?) [was: Apologia for bzr] Richard Stallman
2014-01-19 12:21 ` Lennart Borgman
2014-01-20 12:22 ` Phillip Lord
2014-01-20 14:06 ` New tutorial (was: Emacs terminology (not again!?) [was: Apologia for bzr]) Stefan Monnier
2014-01-20 15:24 ` Emacs terminology (not again!?) [was: Apologia for bzr] Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-20 16:54 ` Emacs terminology (not again!?) Glenn Morris
2014-01-20 18:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-21 11:39 ` New tutorial (was: Emacs terminology (not again!?) [was: Apologia for bzr]) Phillip Lord
2014-01-21 11:19 ` Emacs terminology (not again!?) Phillip Lord
2014-01-07 6:22 ` Apologia for bzr Christophe Poncy
2014-01-07 6:41 ` joakim
2014-01-06 20:27 ` Richard Stallman
2014-01-07 6:03 ` Christophe Poncy
2014-01-06 14:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-07 5:58 ` Christophe Poncy
2014-01-05 20:56 ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-05 21:58 ` Florian Weimer
2014-01-05 22:13 ` chad
2014-01-05 22:25 ` Lennart Borgman
2014-01-05 23:01 ` chad
2014-01-06 2:32 ` Lennart Borgman
2014-01-05 22:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-06 14:09 ` Sivaram Neelakantan
2014-01-06 14:54 ` David Kastrup
2014-01-06 14:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-07 6:00 ` Christophe Poncy
2014-01-05 23:41 ` James Cloos
2014-01-06 0:27 ` Karl Fogel
2014-01-06 0:35 ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-06 0:45 ` David Kastrup
2014-01-06 1:52 ` Eric Brown
2014-01-06 2:08 ` David Kastrup
2014-01-06 4:27 ` Yuri Khan
2014-01-06 7:18 ` Michael Albinus
2014-01-06 7:32 ` chad
2014-01-06 15:40 ` James Cloos
2014-01-06 18:47 ` Eric Brown
2014-01-09 20:30 ` Rogerio Senna
2014-01-09 22:05 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2014-01-03 9:44 ` Tassilo Horn
2014-01-03 10:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-03 10:56 ` Nathan Trapuzzano
2014-01-03 11:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-03 11:49 ` Nathan Trapuzzano
2014-01-03 13:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-04 20:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-03 15:06 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-01-03 15:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-03 13:49 ` Leo Liu
2014-01-03 14:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-03 15:12 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-01-03 17:48 ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-03 19:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-03 19:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-03 20:27 ` David Kastrup
2014-01-03 20:39 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-01-03 20:54 ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-04 4:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-04 2:00 ` Josh
2014-01-03 17:45 ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-03 17:56 ` Karl Fogel
2014-01-03 18:04 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-01-03 18:21 ` Karl Fogel
2014-01-03 19:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-03 20:17 ` Karl Fogel
2014-01-04 10:01 ` David Engster
2014-01-04 19:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-03 19:19 ` chad
2014-01-03 18:05 ` David Engster
2014-01-04 13:08 ` Bastien
2014-01-03 16:57 ` Tassilo Horn
2014-01-03 20:02 ` Ulrich Mueller
2014-01-03 20:13 ` Tassilo Horn
2014-01-03 20:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-03 20:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-03 20:50 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-01-03 21:10 ` Tassilo Horn
2014-01-02 18:40 ` PROPOSAL: Move to git, now that bzr is no longer a req Bozhidar Batsov
2014-01-02 20:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-02 21:22 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-01-03 7:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-03 14:53 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-01-03 15:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-03 15:32 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-01-03 15:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-03 16:28 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-01-03 20:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-03 20:37 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-01-03 21:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-03 21:38 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-01-04 7:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-04 17:30 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-01-04 19:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-04 20:19 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-01-04 20:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-04 20:47 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-01-04 21:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-03 21:00 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2014-01-03 21:18 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-01-02 18:02 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-01-03 17:54 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-01-02 19:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-02 19:51 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-01-02 21:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-02 21:53 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2014-01-02 22:59 ` Andreas Schwab
2014-01-03 2:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-02 20:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-03 6:33 ` joakim
2014-01-03 8:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-03 11:14 ` Juanma Barranquero
2014-01-03 13:01 ` Bastien
2014-01-03 13:46 ` David Engster
2014-01-03 14:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-03 15:19 ` Tom
2014-01-03 16:18 ` David Engster
2014-01-03 17:29 ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-03 14:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-03 14:24 ` Bastien
2014-01-03 17:32 ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-03 14:36 ` Antonio Nikishaev
2014-01-03 20:15 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-01-05 4:49 ` Barry Warsaw
2014-01-03 17:22 ` Karl Fogel
2014-01-03 14:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-03 17:12 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-01-03 17:25 ` Karl Fogel
2014-01-02 22:31 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-01-03 17:09 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-01-03 17:50 ` David Engster
2014-01-02 17:17 ` Christoph
2014-01-02 18:05 ` Bozhidar Batsov
2014-01-02 19:05 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-01-02 20:49 ` Paul Eggert
2014-01-02 22:54 ` Michael Albinus
2014-01-02 23:32 ` Xue Fuqiao
2014-01-02 23:55 ` Stephen Eglen
2014-01-03 5:27 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2014-01-03 7:39 ` Michael Albinus
2014-01-03 9:07 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2014-01-03 9:19 ` Bastien
2014-01-03 9:17 ` Bastien
2014-01-03 9:35 ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2014-01-03 9:53 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-01-03 10:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-03 17:26 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-01-03 10:05 ` Bastien
2014-01-03 10:08 ` Tassilo Horn
2014-01-03 9:31 ` Generating ChangeLog files Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2014-01-03 10:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-03 18:09 ` Bozhidar Batsov
2014-01-03 18:41 ` Juanma Barranquero
2014-01-03 20:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-04 3:49 ` Kenichi Handa
2014-01-04 4:28 ` Paul Eggert
2014-01-05 5:57 ` Richard Stallman
2014-01-04 7:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-03 14:48 ` PROPOSAL: Move to git, now that bzr is no longer a req Stefan Monnier
2014-01-04 9:42 ` Bastien
2014-01-04 12:49 ` Achim Gratz
2014-01-04 12:58 ` Bastien
2014-01-04 13:15 ` Achim Gratz
2014-01-04 13:20 ` Bastien
2014-01-04 20:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-05 10:14 ` Florian Weimer
2014-01-03 17:50 ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-04 8:00 ` Richard Stallman
2014-01-04 9:44 ` Bastien
2014-01-04 9:57 ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-04 9:58 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-01-04 11:31 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2014-01-04 13:01 ` Bastien
2014-01-04 13:03 ` David Kastrup
2014-01-04 13:11 ` Bastien
2014-01-04 13:15 ` David Kastrup
2014-01-04 13:27 ` Bastien
2014-01-09 14:34 ` Per Starbäck
2014-01-09 14:49 ` David Kastrup
2014-01-09 16:56 ` Glenn Morris
2014-01-04 13:07 ` Achim Gratz
2014-01-04 20:03 ` Juanma Barranquero
2014-01-04 20:12 ` Jarek Czekalski
2014-01-04 20:37 ` Achim Gratz
2014-01-04 20:53 ` Juanma Barranquero
2014-01-04 21:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-04 21:38 ` Juanma Barranquero
2014-01-05 2:17 ` Nathan Trapuzzano
2014-01-05 5:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-05 8:39 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-01-04 20:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-04 20:22 ` Achim Gratz
2014-01-04 21:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-05 8:34 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-01-05 16:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-06 3:40 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-01-05 17:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-06 3:44 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-01-06 4:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-06 7:10 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-01-06 14:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-05 20:20 ` Richard Stallman
2014-01-05 23:58 ` David Kastrup
2014-01-06 0:26 ` Glenn Morris
2014-01-06 3:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-06 3:59 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-01-06 6:58 ` Bastien
2014-01-04 10:29 ` David Kastrup
2014-01-05 10:25 ` Florian Weimer
2014-01-05 20:23 ` Richard Stallman
2014-01-05 20:43 ` Florian Weimer
2014-01-06 14:00 ` Richard Stallman
2014-01-06 14:53 ` David Kastrup
2014-01-06 16:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-06 17:57 ` Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
2014-01-06 18:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-06 18:07 ` David Kastrup
2014-01-06 18:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-07 19:17 ` David Kastrup
2014-01-07 19:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-07 20:24 ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2014-01-02 16:12 ` bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-02 17:53 ` Sam Steingold
2014-01-02 18:03 ` Samuel El-Borai
2014-01-03 20:03 ` David Reitter
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2014-01-07 9:32 Apologia for bzr Alexander Meesters
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