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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: rms@gnu.org, John Yates <john@yates-sheets.org>
Cc: casouri@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rudalics@gmx.at,
	monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, eliz@gnu.org, juri@linkov.net
Subject: RE: Extend gdb to filter registers
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2020 21:09:02 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <78b575f4-e994-4d10-ae42-159bf87c0e5b@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1ivZNT-0007d6-84@fencepost.gnu.org>

>   > That said I think that the current windowing model
>   > has a surprising semantic for dedicated, namely that
>   > a dedicated window is allowed to be split.
> 
> That does surprise me -- but with so many possible cases, can we be
> sure that it isn't sometime desirable to split those windows?
> 
> It should be easy to add a global variable to control this.
> Its default could tentatively be not to split dedicated windows.
> If anyone is disappointed with that change, we would find out.

I apologize for jumping in here out of the blue,
and without even have read the (long) thread.
(I don't use gdb.)

I'd just like to say this -

I use dedicated windows for all buffers, such as
`*Messages*', that have names like `*...*', and I've
long done so.  For me, they are "special-display"
buffers.

I've never had any idea that one should not be able
to split a dedicated window.  And occasionally I've
done so.

To me, a window being dedicated is only about the
association between a window and a buffer.  It's
not about also not being able to split or delete
the window.

I believe that's what the doc says too, and that's
always been the behavior.  Is there a good reason
why that should change?

I don't want to join a discussion about the question.
I just wanted to mention my experience and raise the
question, in case it hasn't been raised explicitly
in the thread.

If I had my druthers, I think I'd prefer that the
behavior remain as it's been, and if someone needs
something like a dedicated window that also cannot
be split then we create something else for that.

I know that Emacs has already created a second kind
of dedication - weakly dedicated.  Perhaps a third
kind should be created to handle the (apparent?)
use of case of strongly dedicated + unsplittable.
Just a thought, in passing.

The alternative of having a global variable whose
current value determines whether _all_ dedicated
windows are (currently) splittable, which is what I
guess Richard suggested, seems worse to me.  But I
haven't followed the discussion, so I don't really
appreciate the need, i.e., use case.

I'll butt out now.



  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-26  5:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-03 16:40 Extend gdb to filter registers Yuan Fu
2019-10-04 16:13 ` Fu Yuan
2019-10-04 19:32   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-04 19:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-10-04 21:55   ` Yuan Fu
2019-10-05  3:15     ` Yuan Fu
2019-10-05  7:08       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-05 13:15         ` Yuan Fu
2019-10-05 13:53           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-05 17:51             ` Yuan Fu
2019-10-05 19:01               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-06  4:24                 ` Yuan Fu
2019-10-06 17:36                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-08  2:23                     ` Yuan Fu
2019-10-06  4:43               ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2019-10-07 15:50                 ` Yuan Fu
2019-10-07 16:19                   ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2019-10-08  0:19                     ` Yuan Fu
2019-10-08 17:26       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-10-09  3:44         ` Yuan Fu
2019-10-09  3:51           ` Yuan Fu
2019-10-15  3:05           ` Yuan Fu
2019-10-15  9:48             ` martin rudalics
2019-10-17  3:14               ` Yuan Fu
2019-10-17  3:27                 ` Yuan Fu
2019-10-17  8:26                 ` martin rudalics
2019-10-15 18:10             ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-15 20:51               ` Stefan Monnier
2019-10-17  3:08               ` Yuan Fu
2019-10-17  8:19                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-26 21:56                   ` Yuan Fu
2019-10-27  7:47                     ` martin rudalics
2019-10-27 17:38                       ` Yuan Fu
2020-01-16  4:25                         ` Yuan Fu
2020-01-16 14:51                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-16 15:04                             ` Yuan Fu
     [not found]                               ` <CAO0xp5w8PwAiy=JNVmCK652rCs_06cMAO5_+1ppHwppQ2js4VQ@mail.gmail.com>
2020-01-17 23:31                                 ` Yuan Fu
2020-01-18 11:15                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-18 13:32                                 ` Yuan Fu
2020-01-18 15:21                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-18 15:41                                     ` Yuan Fu
2020-01-18 16:50                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-18 16:20                                 ` John Yates
2020-01-18 16:53                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-18 17:53                                     ` Yuan Fu
2020-01-18 17:56                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-18 18:21                                     ` martin rudalics
2020-01-18 18:33                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-18 18:36                                         ` Yuan Fu
2020-01-18 18:48                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-18 20:10                                             ` Yuan Fu
2020-01-18 18:41                                         ` martin rudalics
2020-01-18 19:18                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-18 21:43                                             ` martin rudalics
2020-01-19 15:40                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-19 17:33                                                 ` Yuan Fu
2020-01-19 17:42                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-19 17:57                                                     ` Yuan Fu
2020-01-19 18:43                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-19 19:35                                                         ` Yuan Fu
2020-01-19 20:07                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-20  1:22                                                             ` Yuan Fu
2020-01-20 18:03                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-22  1:50                                                                 ` Yuan Fu
2020-01-24  7:16                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-24 20:12                                                                     ` Yuan Fu
2020-01-24 22:37                                                                       ` John Yates
2020-01-25  7:45                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-25 14:33                                                                           ` John Yates
2020-01-25 17:10                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-25  8:43                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2020-01-25 14:56                                                                           ` John Yates
2020-01-25 17:14                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2020-01-25 20:17                                                                               ` John Yates
2020-01-26  8:41                                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2020-01-26  4:18                                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2020-01-26  5:09                                                                           ` Drew Adams [this message]
2020-01-26  5:31                                                                             ` Yuan Fu
2020-01-26 17:12                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-25  8:24                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-25  8:58                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2020-01-25 10:25                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-25 10:30                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-25 22:34                                                                         ` Yuan Fu
2020-01-26  8:42                                                                           ` martin rudalics
2020-01-26 16:12                                                                             ` Yuan Fu
2020-01-26 16:57                                                                               ` martin rudalics
2020-01-27 15:56                                                                                 ` Yuan Fu
2020-01-27 19:18                                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2020-01-27 19:53                                                                                     ` Yuan Fu
2020-01-28  9:49                                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2020-01-28 20:01                                                                                         ` Yuan Fu
2020-01-28 20:33                                                                                           ` John Yates
2020-01-31 13:58                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-31 15:25                                                                             ` Yuan Fu
2020-01-31 15:35                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-25  8:43                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2020-01-25 10:21                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-25 12:11                                                                           ` martin rudalics
2020-01-25 13:35                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-25  8:42                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2020-01-19 18:30                                                   ` martin rudalics
2020-01-19 18:47                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-19 18:05                                                 ` martin rudalics

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