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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:249703 Archived-At: Hi Stefan, On 27.04.2020 15:30, Stefan Kangas wrote: > Dmitry Gutov writes: > >> Maybe some improvements to the welcome screen. > > OK, so here's a proposal for a better welcome screen. The idea was to > get rid of the impenetrable wall of text we have now by simplifying > it. Yesterday, this was posted on Reddit as a concept: https://camo.githubusercontent.com/7f0804a2670362a0623a0ede5338e5bd8655078c/68747470733a2f2f692e726564642e69742f366870626f66343078737834312e706e67 https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/ggnekq/a_very_minimal_but_elegant_emacs_i_think/ What do you think of the style? It seems that the author has assigned copyright for some art to FSF in the past, so we could ask for an assignment for Emacs. And then base our screen on this, adjusting the actual information shown to best suit our requirements.