From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Tweaking t-m-m to make room for d-s-m Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 15:23:39 -0700 Message-ID: <777851FC04B349D6B6B36B998FC3127C@us.oracle.com> References: <87sk7pzqsp.fsf@ambire.localdomain> <87mxxw6c7b.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <20100326092833.19294vuz9efv5qg4@webmail.mnet-online.de><33DBCF2DFF71401DB0861E66EC29ED2B@us.oracle.com> <5F1D87251C98412EADC1187ABFCC3E8D@us.oracle.com> <4BAD2F8C.7050701@canaxis.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1269642576 21731 80.91.229.12 (26 Mar 2010 22:29:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 22:29:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "'Lennart Borgman'" , "'Christophe Poncy'" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 26 23:29:32 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NvI20-0002Bs-1U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 23:29:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57077 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NvI1z-0004Ta-9Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 18:29:31 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NvHxk-0002R9-An for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 18:25:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=35217 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NvHxf-0002Oz-Lc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 18:25:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NvHxe-0000UN-BA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 18:25:03 -0400 Original-Received: from rcsinet11.oracle.com ([148.87.113.123]:24742) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NvHxe-0000U2-3K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 18:25:02 -0400 Original-Received: from rcsinet13.oracle.com (rcsinet13.oracle.com [148.87.113.125]) by rcsinet11.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id o2QMOuEX030121 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 26 Mar 2010 22:24:58 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt355.oracle.com (acsmt355.oracle.com [141.146.40.155]) by rcsinet13.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o2QMOsqB020017; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 22:24:55 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt017.oracle.com by acsmt354.oracle.com with ESMTP id 120822851269642220; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 15:23:40 -0700 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/141.144.73.76) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 15:23:40 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcrNMN8uzSrx1x/4R/meObnTXCkV1AAAM45A X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Source-IP: acsmt355.oracle.com [141.146.40.155] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090202.4BAD3438.018D:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:122733 Archived-At: > I guess you know the CUA style key bindings etc? And that you know how > to use them and have done it, or? FWIW, I know and use CUA bindings much of the day, most days - in Framemaker and Windows, in particular. I still prefer not to use cua-mode in Emacs. Emacs is not Framemaker, Word, Windows, DOS,... Do I bother to switch back and forth like that just because I got in the Emacs habit? I can't prove the contrary. I admit that I knew Emacs before the others, and I haven't tried to use Emacs in Viper mode or CUA mode. But I like to think that I do this switch-dance because Emacs keys fit better with Emacs. Call it delusion, if you like. Still, it shows that it is possible to walk and chew gum at the same time. And it's even possible for Emacs newbies to do it - of that I'm certain. I've even seen them riding bicycles.