From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bill Wohler Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Icon update Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 08:22:47 -0800 Organization: Newt Software Message-ID: <7753.1143908567@olgas.newt.com> References: <2014.1143413876@olgas.newt.com> <2055.1143413986@olgas.newt.com> <858xqvek7c.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <4428D8BB.8050701@swipnet.se> <442A5D49.1000302@swipnet.se> <442B8350.3050902@swipnet.se> <87odznu3gp.fsf@olgas.newt.com> <442D1EEE.1000705@swipnet.se> <10546.1143826655@olgas.newt.com> <442E6FD5.4090406@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1143908598 503 80.91.229.2 (1 Apr 2006 16:23:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 16:23:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 01 18:23:13 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FPisX-0005Xx-Un for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 18:23:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FPisX-00021N-E1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 11:23:09 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FPisG-0001zk-WC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 11:22:53 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FPisD-0001y7-CM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 11:22:51 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FPisD-0001xw-4V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 11:22:49 -0500 Original-Received: from [207.69.195.61] (helo=pop-gadwall.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FPiur-00029D-GD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 11:25:33 -0500 Original-Received: from h-68-166-37-206.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net ([68.166.37.206] helo=olgas.newt.com) by pop-gadwall.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #10) id 1FPisB-0002a9-00; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 11:22:48 -0500 Original-Received: by olgas.newt.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7D12C16FE9; Sat, 1 Apr 2006 08:22:47 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from olgas.newt.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olgas.newt.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78A7916FA9; Sat, 1 Apr 2006 08:22:47 -0800 (PST) Original-To: "Jan D." In-reply-to: <442E6FD5.4090406@swipnet.se> Comments: In-reply-to "Jan D." message dated "Sat, 01 Apr 2006 14:19:33 +0200." X-Mailer: MH-E 7.93+cvs; nmh 1.1; GNU Emacs 22.0.50.23 X-Image-URL: http://www.newt.com/wohler/images/bill-diving.png Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:52295 Archived-At: Jan D. wrote: > Bill Wohler wrote: > > >Jan D. wrote: > > > > > > > >>Bill Wohler wrote: > >> > >> > >>>"Jan D." writes: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>I've attached some screenshots of these situations. I think before we > >>>>release this we need to find stock items for everything. In Info mode > >>>>there are also icons that don't have any stock definition, so arrows > >>>>may look differently. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>Since you're more familiar with GTK, can you please suggest a > >>>specific > >>>proposal? > >>>While updating the icons I was thinking of stock_previous, > >>>stock_next, > >>>and stock_up (from GNOME) to replace prev_node, next_node, and up_node > >>>respectively but wasn't sure how folks would respond to that. > >>> > >>> > >>Can you link to them? > >> > >> > > > >I'm not sure I know what you mean by that. > > > > > > I meant give an URL where these icons can be seen. file:/usr/share/icons/hicolor/24x24/stock :-( I recently asked this very same question on the GNOME usability list: Rodney Dawes wrote: > On Wed, 2006-03-22 at 08:46 -0800, Bill Wohler wrote: > > Also, there are a dazzling number of icon and desktop themes on the > > GNOME site, but none are branded "Default" so I could check for > > myself. What is the URL to the current default set of icons? > > And, as Calum stated, gnome-icon-theme is in GNOME CVS, and not > available as a simple tarball theme download on a theme site. > >Hmmm, you're right. I see two approaches. > > > >1. Devise a scheme that provides the following icon priorities: > > > >a. Personal icons > >b. Theme icons > >c. Emacs built-in icons > > > >2. Use the theme as I had proposed. The user personalizes the icon not > > by adding their icons to image-load-path, but rather by adding their > > icons to the GNOME theme. We document this. > > > >I suspect that the latter is more germane to a GNOME user. > > Yes. But it would mean having different strategies fro GTK Emacs and > Emacs compiled without GTK. Maybe that isn't such a big deal. I > suspect users of GTK Emacs would want it to change as the theme > changes. If we can agree on Gnome icons, I'm all for it, we can > always fall back to builtin icons if those aren't available. Falling back to those icons will also be the thing to do in non-GTK situations too, so we should be OK. Right? -- Bill Wohler http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane.