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From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: with-url
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2017 00:54:50 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <76ae7bf5-539a-dfc8-af56-f941c185424c@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h94s8587.fsf@gnus.org>

On 22.01.2017 00:37, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote:

> "The absence of a connection timeout" is not an error.  A connection
> timeout is an error, of course, and the caller can access that error
> like all the other errors.

Via a global variable?

> None of these errors are control-flow-level errors, but are expected
> behaviour.

Try evaluating (insert-file-contents "/abc/def").

It signals file-error.

How is that different, conceptually speaking, from a 404 status 
(application level error) or domain resolution error (IP level error)?

> That's what Java programmers did in the 90s, and they've learned their
> lessons.

I can assure you, they are still doing that. Just like many other 
programmer using certain other object-oriented languages, when 
implementing business logic.

The lesson to be learned here is, it pretty much works.

> Well, most of them.

Ones that switched to Go?



  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-21 21:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-29  0:41 with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-12-29  1:06 ` with-url Stefan Monnier
2016-12-29  1:12   ` with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-12-29 16:05 ` with-url Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-29 16:35   ` with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-12-29 16:40     ` with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-12-29 16:58       ` with-url Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-29 18:52         ` with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-12-29 20:31           ` with-url Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-30 14:12             ` with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-12-30 15:23               ` with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-12-30 16:58               ` with-url Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-21 15:31         ` with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-21 15:33           ` with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-21 15:54           ` with-url Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-21 16:32             ` with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-21 16:40               ` with-url Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-22 15:55                 ` with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-22 16:39                   ` with-url Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-29 16:53     ` with-url Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-29 18:48       ` with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-01  1:07 ` with-url Dmitry Gutov
2017-01-03 17:47   ` with-url Stefan Monnier
2017-01-26 23:00     ` with-url Ted Zlatanov
2017-01-26 23:08       ` with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-27 13:49         ` with-url Ted Zlatanov
2017-01-21 15:44   ` with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-21 20:26     ` with-url Dmitry Gutov
2017-01-21 20:32       ` with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-21 20:36         ` with-url Dmitry Gutov
2017-01-21 20:49           ` with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-21 21:05             ` with-url Dmitry Gutov
2017-01-21 21:12               ` with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-21 21:16                 ` with-url Dmitry Gutov
2017-01-21 21:23                   ` with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-21 21:27                     ` with-url Dmitry Gutov
2017-01-21 21:37                       ` with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-21 21:54                         ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2017-01-21 22:07                           ` with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-22 12:14                             ` with-url Yuri Khan
2017-01-22 14:46                               ` with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-22 15:13                                 ` with-url Dmitry Gutov
2017-01-22 16:36                                   ` with-url Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-22 21:27                                     ` with-url Dmitry Gutov
2017-01-22 14:22                             ` with-url Dmitry Gutov
2017-01-22 14:42                               ` with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-21 20:34       ` with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-21 20:38         ` with-url Dmitry Gutov
2017-01-21 20:48           ` with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-21 22:25       ` with-url John Mastro
2017-01-22 16:04 ` with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-22 16:42   ` with-url Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-22 16:55     ` with-url Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-22 23:56   ` not with-url Richard Stallman

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