From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: chad Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Global bar to display global information Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 15:32:47 -0700 Message-ID: <76E2C4F0-D344-436E-8D77-30B8C75548FB@mit.edu> References: <87hb5he3dy.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87d3g5e19j.fsf@wanadoo.es> <22B4DB0E3E1C427EAB8A52C8C3B833A1@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1244.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1313533983 6591 80.91.229.12 (16 Aug 2011 22:33:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 22:33:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=E9r=E9my_Compostella?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 17 00:32:58 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QtSBu-00064E-42 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 17 Aug 2011 00:32:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52872 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QtSBt-0007Oy-Ey for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Aug 2011 18:32:57 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:39917) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QtSBp-0007Nj-L1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Aug 2011 18:32:54 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QtSBo-0003m6-7X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Aug 2011 18:32:53 -0400 Original-Received: from dmz-mailsec-scanner-8.mit.edu ([18.7.68.37]:51814) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QtSBo-0003ly-3d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Aug 2011 18:32:52 -0400 X-AuditID: 12074425-b7b15ae000000f71-79-4e4aefe018a4 Original-Received: from mailhub-auth-4.mit.edu ( [18.7.62.39]) by dmz-mailsec-scanner-8.mit.edu (Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id A4.D9.03953.0EFEA4E4; Tue, 16 Aug 2011 18:32:00 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (OUTGOING-AUTH.MIT.EDU [18.7.22.103]) by mailhub-auth-4.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.9.2) with ESMTP id p7GMWoDu008364; Tue, 16 Aug 2011 18:32:50 -0400 Original-Received: from [10.0.0.193] ([12.198.236.170]) (authenticated bits=0) (User authenticated as yandros@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.13.6/8.12.4) with ESMTP id p7GMWlUW004352 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Tue, 16 Aug 2011 18:32:49 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1244.3) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFvrKIsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUixG6nrvvgvZefwecD4haPFzxhtbh45gWr A5PHzll32T3appkFMEVx2aSk5mSWpRbp2yVwZdztPs9csJO7ovHPEcYGxmmcXYycHBICJhJt G24zQthiEhfurWfrYuTiEBLYxyixcPk+JghnA6PErx3noDIrmSQmTFjCDNIiLGAqsXjfbCCb g4NXwFji9T8mkDCzgI7Ezq132EDCbAIyQFM1QMKcAmYSS+7/YAOxWQRUJdbvmMgIUS4u8eNu HyuErS2xbOFrsOm8AlYSD6Zfh7qhgVliz5vvYKtEBLwk+ibqQRwtL7G45TPjBEbBWQhHzEJy xCwkUxcwMq9ilE3JrdLNTczMKU5N1i1OTszLSy3StdDLzSzRS00p3cQIDl0X1R2MEw4pHWIU 4GBU4uH92ePlJ8SaWFZcmXuIUZKDSUmUd+k7oBBfUn5KZUZicUZ8UWlOavEhRgkOZiUR3gO3 gXK8KYmVValF+TApaQ4WJXHe1zsc/IQE0hNLUrNTUwtSi2CyMhwcShK8isAYFRIsSk1PrUjL zClBSDNxcIIM5wEa/hBkMW9xQWJucWY6RP4Uo6KUOK8+SLMASCKjNA+uF5ZaXjGKA70izBsB UsUDTEtw3a+ABjMBDb61ywNkcEkiQkqqgXEL/7P8/RyL+H2aMsPtZzud+i9s9zHHTUiBzUQl aEXfeq7v7r3sG6/2NvdckrvHspVhypI7foovVt2RsHpeE1xlvfLptLj82VE7b/uwck6eZ/mn 64/EnBmXglJ/2uatXGa08yDPWc/ZEzoZwzbYbOQKa/Q+Z6S5J/n4xNwizUdGJWYu X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 18.7.68.37 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:143337 Archived-At: On Aug 16, 2011, at 1:54 PM, J=E9r=E9my Compostella wrote: > As long as I know, header-line-format is buffer related and not frame = related. > Am I wrong ? It is buffer- and not frame-associated, yes. I was suggesting that you = consider building a way to have only the topmost window in a given frame display = the header-line. This might be tricky in general, but since you're using a desktop system of your own creation, it seems likely to be easier for = you. For emacs in general, there is a lot of currently on-going = work/discussion=20 around frame and window parameters, so it's probably a bit too early to=20= try to figure out such a mechanism for emacs24, but that's just an = artifact=20 of development right now. > What is this Ted's `Emacs as a Desktop Environment' you are talking = about ? Some developers are pursing the idea of moving all of the `important' = parts=20 of the desktop environment inside emacs, or at least inside emacs' easy=20= reach. This includes `desktop widgets' and an associated `dock', that = would be in specialized frames/windows. It's closer to Thien-Thi Nguyen's idea of a `special messages buffer' than your `global mode-line', but it = could easily serve both purposes, and other more gui-based uses as well. You can read the discussion (from emacs-devel archives) starting here: >> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2011-05/msg00746.html *Chad