From: "Berndl, Klaus" <klaus.berndl@capgemini-sdm.com>
To: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
Cc: Deniz Dogan <deniz.a.m.dogan@gmail.com>,
Emacs <emacs-devel@gnu.org>,
Angelo Graziosi <angelo.graziosi@alice.it>
Subject: AW: AW: AW: Tabs in Emacs?
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:19:01 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7697A57B1AD9104F993CDF6A5B69430C08D5A972D3@CORPMAIL08.corp.capgemini.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <buoaayk5fdc.fsf@dhlpc061.dev.necel.com>
Well - "argh" is well spoken ;-)
Another suggestion, or precisely a refined suggestion:
1. Introducing new commands which represents your scenario where opening a new buffer opens a new tab (e.g. find-file-other-tab, switch-to-buffer-other-tab, adapting display-buffer in an appropriate manner etc...) Optionally we could also introduce some new defcustoms which can define a default-behavior: e.g. using the standard window-related commands (e.g. find-file-other-window) automatically opens/uses other tabs ...
2. But in general tabs represent window-configs and leaving a tab X stores ist window-config in a suitable way so it can be restored when entering again tab X - all this has to be happen automatically! Often the window-config will only contain one window...
So when a user wants the tab=buffer relation, he has it - he just has to use Emacs in way so opening buffers and switching to buffers operates on tabs (see 1) - but the whole stuff is much more powerful for scenarios where a tab contains a full window-config. The latter one is similar to something like escreen.el and winring.el and could be usefol for running in one tab ECB, in another Gnus, in another GUD - like eclipse...
Thoughts?
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Von: miles@gnu.org [mailto:miles@gnu.org]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 18. November 2009 10:53
An: Berndl, Klaus
Cc: Angelo Graziosi; Emacs; Deniz Dogan
Betreff: Re: AW: AW: Tabs in Emacs?
"Berndl, Klaus" <klaus.berndl@capgemini-sdm.com> writes:
> IMHO tabs should an a frame-basis and each tab should display window-configurations, i.e. switching to a tab X should display exactly the window-layout and contents as X has contained when the user has left it
> And each window of the window-configuration of a tab should contain it's headerline...
>
> Is this understandable?
Sure, but... it may not exactly be what's most convenient for users --
again, it's a hard issue.
While a window-configuration switching implementation is useful in some
cases (e.g. eclipses uses a sort of similar system for switching between
"debugging view" "browsing view" etc), how would the different
configurations get set up ? I can imagine a system that required
explicit user action ("add a new tab with current config"), but...
I think many users might just want to switch between buffers, and have
tabs automatically added for each buffer (perhaps limiting the number
displayed in a MRU fashion, e.g., how eclipse handles source file tabs).
That seems to be more similar to how tabs work in e.g. visual studio,
and other editors...
argh... :]
-miles
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-11-18 10:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-11-17 12:26 Tabs in Emacs? Angelo Graziosi
2009-11-17 13:32 ` Deniz Dogan
2009-11-17 13:59 ` AW: " Berndl, Klaus
2009-11-17 14:47 ` Miles Bader
2009-11-18 9:40 ` AW: " Berndl, Klaus
2009-11-18 9:52 ` Miles Bader
2009-11-18 10:19 ` Berndl, Klaus [this message]
2009-11-18 19:08 ` Juri Linkov
2009-11-18 14:56 ` AW: AW: " Stefan Monnier
2009-11-18 19:19 ` joakim
2009-11-17 16:09 ` Jason Rumney
2009-11-18 8:49 ` AW: " Berndl, Klaus
2009-11-18 9:26 ` Teemu Likonen
2009-11-18 9:30 ` Miles Bader
2009-11-18 9:28 ` AW: " Miles Bader
2009-11-17 17:52 ` Juri Linkov
2009-11-17 17:54 ` AW: " David Reitter
2009-11-17 19:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-17 17:41 ` Angelo Graziosi
2009-11-17 23:43 ` Xavier Maillard
2009-11-18 1:57 ` Miles Bader
2009-11-18 17:20 ` Xavier Maillard
2009-11-18 19:12 ` Juri Linkov
2009-11-18 3:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-17 18:37 ` Andrey Paramonov
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