From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Berndl, Klaus" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: AW: AW: Tabs in Emacs? Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:40:05 +0100 Message-ID: <7697A57B1AD9104F993CDF6A5B69430C08D5A97269@CORPMAIL08.corp.capgemini.com> References: <4B029686.8080705@alice.it> <7b501d5c0911170532i5620ce86w57507fa95eecb1dc@mail.gmail.com> <7697A57B1AD9104F993CDF6A5B69430C08D5B6356B@CORPMAIL08.corp.capgemini.com> <87aayli4xv.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1258537357 12076 80.91.229.12 (18 Nov 2009 09:42:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:42:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Angelo Graziosi , Emacs , Deniz Dogan To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 18 10:42:30 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NAh3U-0006qz-6Z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:42:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37993 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NAh3T-000284-LV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:42:27 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NAh1T-0001Ga-58 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:40:23 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NAh1N-0001Cy-2W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:40:22 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=51107 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NAh1M-0001Ck-DQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:40:16 -0500 Original-Received: from spfdefra01.capgemini.com ([194.11.253.100]:51234) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NAh1J-0003Fg-I3; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:40:13 -0500 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,764,1249250400"; d="scan'208";a="218955015" Original-Received: from unknown (HELO corpmx12.corp.capgemini.com) ([205.223.229.53]) by IRDEFRA-C650-01-D2-incoming.capgemini.com with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 18 Nov 2009 10:40:07 +0100 Original-Received: from CORPMAIL08.corp.capgemini.com ([205.223.229.25]) by CORPMX12 ([205.223.229.53]) with mapi; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:40:07 +0100 Thread-Topic: AW: Tabs in Emacs? Thread-Index: AcpnlTlUwlP7RoF5TOWWk+Qwpr17iQAnUt9Q In-Reply-To: <87aayli4xv.fsf@catnip.gol.com> Accept-Language: de-DE, en-US Content-Language: de-DE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: de-DE, en-US X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:117159 Archived-At: Well, cause of Emacs' complex model with buffers, windows displaying buffer= s and frames displaying windows and on top window-configurations there is n= o easy answer, i have to admit. But nevertheless i will make try: IMHO tabs should an a frame-basis and each tab should display window-config= urations, i.e. switching to a tab X should display exactly the window-layou= t and contents as X has contained when the user has left it And each window of the window-configuration of a tab should contain it's he= aderline... Is this understandable? Klaus -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: Miles Bader [mailto:miles@gnu.org]=20 Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. November 2009 15:47 An: Berndl, Klaus Cc: Deniz Dogan; Angelo Graziosi; Emacs Betreff: Re: AW: Tabs in Emacs? "Berndl, Klaus" writes: > IMHO this tabbar-mode has nothing to do with "real" tabs (as e.g. in Fire= fox) because the header-line is (mis-)used as tab-title/handle, so when usi= ng this mechanism to *simulate* tabs i have no headerline within the tabs..= . IMHO nothing what i would call "Tabs"... Note that exactly tabs _should_ work in Emacs is actually quite contentious (that's one of the reasons they haven't been implemented) -- Emacs has a significantly more complex model than most apps, and it's not really clear the best way to map the usual sort of tab-bar onto that model (read one of the long tortuous emacs-devel threads on this subject for details I guess)... -Miles --=20 ((lambda (x) (list x x)) (lambda (x) (list x x)))