From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jefferson Carpenter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Split `simple.el'? 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([2601:441:8680:4631:103d:dcf4:56ca:ba2a]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s22-v6sm3687476ite.41.2018.04.05.01.17.45 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 05 Apr 2018 01:17:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83fu4a2n3y.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Language: en-US X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4001:c06::242 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:224362 Archived-At: On 4/5/2018 6:17 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Jefferson Carpenter >> Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 22:45:14 +0000 >> >> On 4/4/2018 10:13 PM, John Wiegley wrote> On a similar note, I've been >> meaning to rebind C-h h, because every time I >>> mistakenly hit it, Emacs completely locks up for about 30 seconds as it >>> fetches all those various Unicode characters to display. How long does that >>> take for you? >> >> When I hit C-h h inside Emacs on Windows 8, it hangs up for 30 seconds. > > Windows 8 added several fonts that are very large and cause slowdown > of the Emacs redisplay. You can discover those fonts by moving the > cursor around in the buffer and watching for slowdown; then installing > alternative fonts for the same scripts will make the time much > shorter. Start by installing Symbola, if you haven't already, as the > default Emacs fontset tells to use it for some Unicode blocks. Interesting, I'll look into that later if I have time. >> When I hit C-h h inside Putty, running Emacs on Linux over SSH, it takes >> less than a second. > > When you do that, the fonts are served by your local X server, which > runs on Windows, right? Then I'm guessing that the X server already > has the fonts loaded since the last session of Emacs or other > programs, so the comparison is "unfair". > > It takes 5 to 6 seconds on my Windows system to display etc/HELLO, > when I start with "emacs -Q", FWIW. No X server at all - just running in terminal mode over SSH.