From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Mac OS-compatible ports Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 10:54:24 +0900 Message-ID: <7663A5DC-CA40-45B3-A0F3-5624BBB6C852@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp> References: <9E637EAB-A0C5-421B-9CCA-71C41442AF52@gmail.com> <87ipl7zaea.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87sjkbib14.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87d3baui4b.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87mxacqlg4.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87fwg3pfy4.fsf@lifelogs.com> <8739c2dscy.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87ehvkdgfr.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> <4EFF1BE4.6020205@s wipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1325382908 11137 80.91.229.12 (1 Jan 2012 01:55:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 01:55:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Jan D." Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 01 02:55:04 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RhAda-0001y7-KI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 02:55:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33990 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhAda-0003lQ-3J for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 31 Dec 2011 20:55:02 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:37045) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhAdX-0003lG-9B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Dec 2011 20:55:00 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhAdW-0005XV-CW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Dec 2011 20:54:59 -0500 Original-Received: from mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp ([133.82.132.2]:49702) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhAdV-0005Vz-RY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Dec 2011 20:54:58 -0500 Original-Received: from [192.168.1.22] (p5036-ipad01akita.akita.ocn.ne.jp [218.224.25.36]) by mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 61893C055D; Sun, 1 Jan 2012 10:54:56 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <4EFF1BE4.6020205@swipnet.se> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: NetBSD 3.0 (DF) X-Received-From: 133.82.132.2 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:147108 Archived-At: On 2011/12/31, at 23:27, Jan D. wrote: >> 1) NS port: Cocoa API, works on Mac OS X with some issues, compatible >> with GNUstep and can work there (it needs lots of work though). = Apple >> has repeatedly stated Cocoa is the preferred API for Mac OS X >> developers, especially for new software. >=20 > I don't think GNUStep needs "lots" of work, just work :-). AFAIK, it = is mainly fonts that are problematic, but then again, fonts in GNUStep = (i.e. without Emacs) seems to be a problem. The NS font backend needs = work, as it is quite slow and uses old API:s. What about the "Lisp evaluation inside read_socket_hook" problem on the GNUstep port? Is your idea for Cocoa (Mac OS X 10.5 or later) applicable to GNUstep, or do you have another idea? YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp