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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Tom <adatgyujto@gmail.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: Finding packages to enable by default
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 11:18:25 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <762bef11-2366-4b7e-909a-ce1a7805d648@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <loom.20131203T192423-502@post.gmane.org>

> I suspect we'll see most of these packages among the top ones
> again if more data is collected.

Sounds like you think that the data gathered this way is in fact
a representative sample, at least wrt most of the features reported.

You might be right, but why do you think so?

So far, I see no reason.  Whether it is these features in reports
today or different ones in reports tomorrow, why suppose that
(most) bug-report features are representative of user configs?

The purpose of gathering that feature data for bugs is, hopefully
(but alas probably not so commonly), to learn something about the
context that manifested the bug.

That context is not necessarily representative of the user's
typical config.  In fact, it might well be pared down to provide
the context of a minimal repro recipe being reported.  In short,
a bug report is not a feature report.

But again,

>> Not saying that the info you gather this way has no meaning.
>> Just saying that not too much should be read into it (e.g.,
>> suppositions that it is representative in any way).

and on that I guess we agree.



  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-03 19:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 188+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-29 16:50 Finding packages to enable by default Tom
2013-11-29 17:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-29 18:54   ` Tom
2013-11-29 20:12     ` chad
2013-11-29 20:32     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-29 21:01       ` Tom
2013-11-29 21:40         ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-11-29 22:13           ` Tom
2013-11-30  1:59             ` Glenn Morris
2013-11-30  4:00               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-30  6:34                 ` Tom
2013-11-30 13:47                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-30 19:10                     ` Glenn Morris
2013-12-01  9:01                       ` Tom
2013-12-01  9:13                         ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-01  9:21                           ` Tom
2013-12-01  9:33                             ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-01 15:44                         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-01 16:42                           ` Tom
2013-12-01 19:01                             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-02 17:09                               ` Tom
2013-12-02 17:45                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-03 17:05                                   ` Tom
2013-12-03 18:11                                     ` Drew Adams
2013-12-03 18:30                                       ` Tom
2013-12-03 19:18                                         ` Drew Adams [this message]
2013-12-03 19:32                                           ` Tom
2013-12-03 19:55                                         ` [RFC] Micro-Init files in GNU ELPA & Survey suggestions(Re: Finding packages to enable by default) Jambunathan K
2013-12-03 20:35                                           ` Tom
2013-12-04  5:04                                             ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-04  5:29                                               ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-04 15:50                                               ` [RFC] Micro-Init files in GNU ELPA Ted Zlatanov
2013-12-04 15:48                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-12-05  4:46                                             ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-05 14:27                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-12-05 14:45                                                 ` joakim
2013-12-05 16:33                                                   ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-05 16:56                                                     ` T.V. Raman
2013-12-06  0:49                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-06  3:28                                                         ` Tom Tromey
2013-12-06  3:49                                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-12-05 23:18                                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-12-06  1:34                                                       ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-04  8:26                                       ` Finding packages to enable by default Jambunathan K
2013-12-04  9:13                                         ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-04  4:09                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-04  4:21                                       ` Andrew Hyatt
2013-12-04  5:46                                         ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-04 16:08                                         ` Bozhidar Batsov
2013-12-04 20:18                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-04 20:32                                             ` Tom
2013-12-04 21:16                                               ` Alex Schroeder
2013-12-04 21:36                                                 ` Tom
2013-12-05  1:35                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-05 15:24                                                 ` Davis Herring
2013-12-05 17:10                                                 ` Tom
2013-12-05 18:42                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-05 23:33                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-12-04 21:13                                             ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2013-12-04 21:18                                               ` Tom
2013-12-04 21:39                                                 ` Tom
2013-12-04 22:09                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-05  7:00                                               ` martin rudalics
2013-12-05  8:51                                                 ` Bozhidar Batsov
2013-12-05 18:25                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-05 18:57                                                     ` Drew Adams
2013-12-05 23:33                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-06  0:55                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-06  2:07                                                         ` Drew Adams
2013-12-06  4:28                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-06  5:16                                                             ` Drew Adams
2013-12-06  5:53                                                               ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-06  6:05                                                                 ` Drew Adams
2013-12-06  6:37                                                                   ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-06  8:21                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-06  8:18                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-06 11:20                                                                   ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-06 11:29                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-06 11:42                                                                       ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-06 13:57                                                                     ` Drew Adams
2013-12-06 14:18                                                                       ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-06  8:09                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-06  8:21                                                         ` martin rudalics
2013-12-06 17:30                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-06 17:40                                                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-12-07 22:48                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-08 17:45                                                                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2013-12-08 21:21                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-10  1:58                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-11  3:48                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-11 14:09                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-11 14:43                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-08 20:23                                                               ` Stephen Leake
2013-12-08 20:50                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-08 22:35                                                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-12-09  2:13                                                                 ` ada mode [was Re: Finding packages to enable by default] Glenn Morris
2013-12-12 16:42                                                                   ` Stephen Leake
2013-12-12 17:44                                                                     ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2013-12-10  2:04                                                                 ` Finding packages to enable by default Stefan Monnier
2013-12-12 17:59                                                                   ` Stephen Leake
2013-12-11  3:50                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-11  8:13                                                               ` martin rudalics
2013-12-11 11:25                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-11 14:13                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-11 14:44                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-11 15:26                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-13  4:17                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-06  8:21                                                     ` martin rudalics
2013-12-05  0:28                                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-12-05  4:34                                             ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-06  5:37                                             ` Josh
2013-12-06  5:46                                               ` Drew Adams
2013-12-06  6:01                                               ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-04 21:32                                       ` icomplete-mode vs. iswitchb Alex Schroeder
2013-12-05  1:30                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-05  2:05                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-05 12:45                                             ` Alex Schroeder
2013-12-05 13:26                                               ` Bozhidar Batsov
2013-12-05 18:26                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-08 15:44                                                 ` Mathias Dahl
2013-12-10  1:43                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-10  9:56                                                     ` Mathias Dahl
2013-12-11 14:07                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-22 18:24                                                         ` Mathias Dahl
2013-12-23  1:30                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-27 22:24                                                             ` Mathias Dahl
2013-12-05  8:10                                           ` Alex Schroeder
2013-12-05 18:57                                           ` Josh
2013-12-08 19:05                                           ` Stephen Eglen
2013-12-08 19:09                                             ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-09 18:39                                               ` Stephen Eglen
2013-12-10  5:15                                             ` Josh
2013-12-11  4:04                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-11 18:09                                                 ` Josh
2013-12-12  3:33                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-12 12:07                                                     ` Stephen Eglen
2013-12-12 12:26                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-12 12:41                                                         ` Stephen Eglen
2013-12-12 16:38                                                         ` Josh
2013-12-12 17:11                                                         ` chad
2013-12-13  2:45                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-13  2:56                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-13  3:31                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-12 18:20                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-12 18:53                                                           ` Stephen Eglen
2013-12-12 19:34                                                           ` Josh
2013-12-12 17:15                                                     ` Josh
2013-12-11  4:06                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-06 16:49                                         ` Stephen Eglen
2013-12-06 17:39                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-06 23:07                                             ` Josh
2013-12-07 13:22                                               ` Stephen Eglen
2013-11-30  6:27               ` Finding packages to enable by default Tom
2013-11-30 19:06                 ` Glenn Morris
2013-12-01  9:10                   ` Tom
2013-12-01 22:55                     ` Richard Stallman
2013-12-02 17:15                       ` Tom
2013-12-05 19:48                         ` Richard Stallman
2013-11-30  5:34         ` Josh
2013-11-30  6:03           ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-09 11:21 ` Alex Schroeder
2013-12-16 12:07   ` Alex Schroeder
2013-12-17 10:34     ` Jambunathan K
2014-06-19 15:26       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-19 22:54         ` Drew Adams
2014-06-19 23:57         ` Daimrod
2014-06-20  8:25         ` Teemu Likonen
2014-06-20  9:25           ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-06-20 12:56           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-20 13:38             ` Teemu Likonen
2014-06-20 14:04               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-06-20 15:17                 ` Teemu Likonen
2014-06-20 18:34                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-06-20 19:49                     ` Teemu Likonen
2014-06-21  1:28                       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-21 13:18                         ` wcheck-mode (was: Finding packages to enable by default) Teemu Likonen
2014-07-07 14:07                           ` wcheck-mode Stefan Monnier
2014-06-20 14:44               ` Finding packages to enable by default Stefan Monnier
2014-06-25  9:11             ` Sebastien Vauban
2014-06-21 21:51         ` Juri Linkov
2014-06-25  9:12           ` Sebastien Vauban
2014-06-21 22:16         ` Glenn Morris
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2013-12-06 13:57                                                 ` Drew Adams
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2014-06-23 12:43   ` Tak Kunihiro
2014-06-24 23:10     ` Juri Linkov

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