From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bob Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Font issues on Mac OS X using X11 Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:33:58 -0600 Message-ID: <760710620809110933y4dd86c40rc1cd1109bbf3c88b@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_11231_13836708.1221150838038" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1221151685 5377 80.91.229.12 (11 Sep 2008 16:48:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:48:05 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 11 18:49:01 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KdpLB-0003wP-Sl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:48:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35154 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KdpKB-0006n2-9w for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:47:19 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Kdp7K-0001ve-B7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:34:02 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Kdp7J-0001vD-DU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:34:02 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39469 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kdp7J-0001v8-1a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:34:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-gx0-f12.google.com ([209.85.217.12]:57540) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Kdp7I-0005B5-Vv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:34:01 -0400 Original-Received: by gxk5 with SMTP id 5so16662917gxk.18 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 09:33:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=ydiuNKueULo8nZxFTmhJ6yhHnCLwAlU5jQ/IHbEGto4=; b=giOcDHIClk70j+FcHeNqwS54e2nYOrAAhaf5/R61QK7kfck4YxBbwGQ5OPrpv9fT/d rzcsh5fKw+UUWKGlZLb9yTnopxLnklHLLB+vVM947facb85pombtiJxaTaYh0GRQccjJ KGirFl7NfYV/gh5s7f1emZ5p+/FZGW6z6MEP8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=wiR3C0+FKjEolArHXaGhG8zNveQGfqt2Vs6KjmPxCP5BVqaZ4bh/D+bJms6z/idH+8 Vlq4HMB/qR1yAuwNVlMKUdGqt9N7gM9kjlhCylwGG3AyBmOzOqQZkKLBoGZ2Vrl+rJ/i Z1DroxwCpGSIaATXqsf/PVSJeeqqDWY1bwpgU= Original-Received: by 10.86.95.8 with SMTP id s8mr2247753fgb.6.1221150838030; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 09:33:58 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.86.89.19 with HTTP; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 09:33:58 -0700 (PDT) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:103820 Archived-At: ------=_Part_11231_13836708.1221150838038 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I have a few issues using cvs emacs on Mac OS X 10.5.4 under X11. I've compiled using --with-x-toolkit=gtk but I notice the problem even when I do not use gtk so I don't think that is the problem. I like the anti-aliased fonts and would prefer to use Monaco or Monospace. The issues: 1. Using Mocaco the font is not fixed width so it is basically unusable for programming. I noticed that if I change the DPI setting when starting up X11 the relative sizes of different characters change. On the plus side, issue 2 is not present for Monaco (i.e., bold fonts look good). 2. Using Monospace (presently my preferred font) I get fixed width characters but the bold and italic fonts are very pixelated (e.g., in the mode-line for the file name). I wonder if issue 3 is somehow related to this. 3. If I choose the "Set default font" option a (gnome style) dialog comes up to pick a new font, the font that is initially selected in this dialog is not always the font that I am using. If I am using "Monospace" then the next time the font dialog is open "Sans" will be initially selected (but if I then select "Sans" it will change the font). If I use "Monaco" or "Andale Mono" then the selection sticks. This seems very strange. Thanks, Bob ------=_Part_11231_13836708.1221150838038 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I have a few issues using cvs emacs on Mac OS X 10.5.4 under X11.  I've compiled using --with-x-toolkit=gtk but I notice the problem even when I do not use gtk so I don't think that is the problem.  I like the anti-aliased fonts and would prefer to use Monaco or Monospace.  The issues:

1. Using Mocaco the font is not fixed width so it is basically unusable for programming.  I noticed that if I change the DPI setting when starting up X11 the relative sizes of different characters change.  On the plus side, issue 2 is not present for Monaco (i.e., bold fonts look good).

2. Using Monospace (presently my preferred font) I get fixed width characters but the bold and italic fonts are very pixelated (e.g., in the mode-line for the file name).  I wonder if issue 3 is somehow related to this.

3. If I choose the "Set default font" option a (gnome style) dialog comes up to pick a new font, the font that is initially selected in this dialog is not always the font that I am using.  If I am using "Monospace" then the next time the font dialog is open "Sans" will be initially selected (but if I then select "Sans" it will change the font).  If I use "Monaco" or "Andale Mono" then the selection sticks.  This seems very strange.

Thanks,
Bob

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