From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eli Zaretskii" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Problems with info (emacs version) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 07:29:44 +0300 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <7443-Mon02Jun2003072943+0300-eliz@elta.co.il> References: <200306020333.h523XMC23468@eel.dms.auburn.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1054528111 12230 80.91.224.249 (2 Jun 2003 04:28:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 04:28:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 02 06:28:29 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19Mgvt-0003B4-00 for ; Mon, 02 Jun 2003 06:28:29 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19MhCK-0002W4-00 for ; Mon, 02 Jun 2003 06:45:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19Mgwu-0003hL-Ac for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2003 00:29:32 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19Mgwb-0003hB-Mg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2003 00:29:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19Mgwa-0003h0-Gd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2003 00:29:13 -0400 Original-Received: from gandalf.inter.net.il ([192.114.186.22]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19Mgwa-0003gv-29 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2003 00:29:12 -0400 Original-Received: from zaretsky (tony08-235-175.inter.net.il [80.230.235.175] (may be forged)) by gandalf.inter.net.il (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.3.5-GR) with ESMTP id ATI64083; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 07:28:59 +0300 (IDT) Original-To: teirllm@dms.auburn.edu X-Mailer: emacs 21.3.50 (via feedmail 8 I) and Blat ver 1.8.9 In-reply-to: <200306020333.h523XMC23468@eel.dms.auburn.edu> (message from Luc Teirlinck on Sun, 1 Jun 2003 22:33:22 -0500 (CDT)) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:14581 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:14581 > Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 22:33:22 -0500 (CDT) > From: Luc Teirlinck > > 5. Last and definitely worst. The user copies part of the info > buffer into an emacs mail buffer for somebody elses information. > What the receiver receives is not what the sender believes he > sent. Granted, the hidden text does not exactly consist of > obscenities or such (although I did not yet try to read these node > names backward to get all the Satanic messages), but this is still > really bad. I think `yank' should by default simply strip all text properties. As it currently works, it tends to surprise users, even if the properties have some visible effect, and in my experience, most uses of `yank' don't need to preserve the properties anyway. I find myself doing a "M-g M-g" quite a lot in these cases. We could then have some optional feature to give the current behavior, like a variable or a special value of the numeric argument to C-y.