From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Jean-Christophe Helary Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "Why is emacs so square?" Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2020 12:05:49 +0900 Message-ID: <73306A04-0843-42D6-84CB-C01C399A8A91@traduction-libre.org> References: <863691n4xl.wl-me@enzu.ru> <87imhw431x.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.80.23.2.2\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="80359"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: emacs-devel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 19 05:06:37 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jQ0I1-000KpN-0h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 19 Apr 2020 05:06:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36820 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jQ0I0-0006nX-29 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 18 Apr 2020 23:06:36 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41002) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jQ0HT-0006N0-1j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Apr 2020 23:06:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jQ0HR-0000G0-N2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Apr 2020 23:06:02 -0400 Original-Received: from relay12.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.178.232]:49827) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jQ0HR-00005E-1H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Apr 2020 23:06:01 -0400 Original-Received: from [10.0.1.13] (pl12634.ag0304.nttpc.ne.jp [128.53.235.90]) (Authenticated sender: jean.christophe.helary@traduction-libre.org) by relay12.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 57539200004 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 2020 03:05:54 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <87imhw431x.fsf@yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.80.23.2.2) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.70.178.232; envelope-from=jean.christophe.helary@traduction-libre.org; helo=relay12.mail.gandi.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Linux 3.11 and newer [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 217.70.178.232 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:247267 Archived-At: > On Apr 19, 2020, at 11:33, Po Lu wrote: >=20 >> If there are people who want to work on rounded corners, and assuming >> they do a good job, I won't argue against it. But if you want >> to attract more users to Emacs, I think there are more important >> areas for improvement. >=20 > I'm working on something that uses GTK foreign rendering to draw = button > and input field backgrounds as face boxes; I should be able to get it > in a usable state soon (right now it only works on top of another set = of > patches I'm working on that make Emacs a pure GTK app). Maybe it would be nice to have era-based user experiences. Like a 70's = UI package, a 80's UI package, etc. That way it is just a matter of = selecting a package and every generation will feel that emacs is just = what works for them. Just half (maybe quarter) tongue in cheek. Jean-Christophe Helary ----------------------------------------------- http://mac4translators.blogspot.com @brandelune