From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mike Kupfer Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: emacs-30 baaf97ce1a1: ; Fix some ungrammatical uses of "allows to" Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2024 16:39:25 -0700 Message-ID: <72715.1725061165@alto.camomileplus.org> References: <86h6b1ewop.fsf@gnu.org> <87ed65al96.fsf@zephyr.silentflame.com> <86cylpes4c.fsf@gnu.org> <875xrhafqg.fsf@zephyr.silentflame.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24883"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Sean Whitton Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 31 01:40:36 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1skBEK-0006My-KX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 31 Aug 2024 01:40:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1skBDU-000307-4i; Fri, 30 Aug 2024 19:39:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1skBDS-0002zk-3U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Aug 2024 19:39:42 -0400 Original-Received: from shell1.rawbw.com ([198.144.192.42]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1skBDQ-0003Dk-8y; Fri, 30 Aug 2024 19:39:41 -0400 Original-Received: from alto.camomileplus.org (135-180-174-211.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [135.180.174.211] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by shell1.rawbw.com (8.15.1/8.15.1) with ESMTPSA id 47UNdP3u014106 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 30 Aug 2024 16:39:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kupfer@rawbw.com) X-Authentication-Warning: shell1.rawbw.com: Host 135-180-174-211.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [135.180.174.211] (may be forged) claimed to be alto.camomileplus.org In-reply-to: <875xrhafqg.fsf@zephyr.silentflame.com> Comments: In-reply-to Sean Whitton message dated "Fri, 30 Aug 2024 22:00:07 +0100." X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.8-RC2; Emacs 30.0.90 Content-ID: <72714.1725061165.1@alto.camomileplus.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=198.144.192.42; envelope-from=kupfer@rawbw.com; helo=shell1.rawbw.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:323224 Archived-At: Sean Whitton wrote: > On Fri 30 Aug 2024 at 10:18pm +03, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > You should have instead reworded the text to avoid the use of these > > constructs, making the text more clear and side-stepping the issue of > > "allow to" entirely. > > Well, in this, as you are a non-native speaker, your opinion on whether > it's clear counts for more than mine. So I would be happy to put in the > effort to try to make it clearer. However, I don't think I'm capable of > doing a good job, because they all read perfectly fine for me. I'll take a stab at it. doc/emacs/anti.texi: The command no longer allows the display of diffs between a file and its auto-save file. etc/NEWS: This lets the user customize different switches... etc/NEWS.29: *** Users can commit a subset of changes in a diffs buffer. This function provides a way to modify some or all of the settings of an existing connection-local profile. Specifying a cons as the FROM argument causes the measurement of text to start from a specified amount of pixels above or below a position. lib/cdefs.h: ISO C99 lets you declare arrays... lisp/tab-bar.el: A button in the window allows for the restoration of the killed buffer. lisp/vc/vc-git.el: When this variable is nil, and the log ends with a rename, a button below the rename allows for the display of the log for the file name before the rename." Given Eli's comment about changes related to gnulib, I won't suggest anything for gnulib-common.m4. HTH, mike