From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?Jan_Dj=C3=A4rv?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Selection changes in revno 100822 Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 19:39:46 +0200 Message-ID: <7164CA7C-6029-4554-8E84-64FBA5B11571@swipnet.se> References: <834oeyv3ww.fsf@gnu.org> <87mxsqyp98.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <83zkwptyij.fsf@gnu.org> <4C66660D.3090603@swipnet.se> <83sk2htp82.fsf@gnu.org> <4C66A8C5.4040203@harpegolden.net> <83hbixte8c.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A400) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-705200142 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1281807572 20893 80.91.229.12 (14 Aug 2010 17:39:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 17:39:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "cyd@stupidchicken.com" , "emacs-devel@gnu.org" , David De La Harpe Golden To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 14 19:39:28 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OkKhb-0002bn-Tu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 Aug 2010 19:39:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37695 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OkKhb-0006SU-EL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 Aug 2010 13:39:27 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=35018 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OkKhU-0006SF-Ao for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Aug 2010 13:39:21 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OkKhT-0003sT-AU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Aug 2010 13:39:20 -0400 Original-Received: from smtprelay-h21.telenor.se ([195.54.99.196]:48787) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OkKhR-0003s4-PU; Sat, 14 Aug 2010 13:39:18 -0400 Original-Received: from ipb2.telenor.se (ipb2.telenor.se [195.54.127.165]) by smtprelay-h21.telenor.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41C38E9C22; Sat, 14 Aug 2010 19:39:16 +0200 (CEST) X-SENDER-IP: [85.225.45.35] X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAxAJJxZkxV4S0jPGdsb2JhbACDFZxMZAwBAQEBNS2ne5E8hEhzBIxb X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.55,368,1278280800"; d="scan'208,217";a="118290179" Original-Received: from c-232de155.25-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) ([85.225.45.35]) by ipb2.telenor.se with ESMTP; 14 Aug 2010 19:39:14 +0200 Original-Received: from [78.79.215.158] (unknown [78.79.215.158]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 232A37FA05A; Sat, 14 Aug 2010 19:39:11 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <83hbixte8c.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8A400) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:128699 Archived-At: --Apple-Mail-1-705200142 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii 14 aug 2010 kl. 17:18 skrev Eli Zaretskii : >=20 > May I suggest to step back and post a clear set of requirements for > when Emacs should and shouldn't put selected text into the primary > selection and into the clipboard? Forget the w32 case for now; let's > just spell out the requirements for X. >=20 Good idea. Also spell out if selecting text by different mechanisms (mouse, s= hift- select, C-@ movement) shall behave differently. =20 > What behavior is that? What other apps have something similar to the > kill ring? >=20 X or Freedesktop does not say anything about things like the kill ring.=20 We can do what we want here. Jan D. --Apple-Mail-1-705200142 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8


14 aug 2010 kl. 17:18 skrev Eli= Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>:

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May I suggest to step back and post a= clear set of requirements for
when Emacs should and shouldn= 't put selected text into the primary
selection and into the= clipboard?  Forget the w32 case for now; let's
just sp= ell out the requirements for X.


Good idea. Also spell out if selecting text by differe= nt mechanisms (mouse, shift- select, C-@ movement) shall behave differently.=
 

W= hat behavior is that?  What other apps have something similar to the
kill ring?


X or Freedesktop does not say anything a= bout things like the kill ring. 
We can do what we want here.
=


     Jan D.

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