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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (0.0 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:252998 Archived-At: On 17.07.2020 04:07, Richard Stallman wrote: > Emacs is not an "umbrella project" in the sense that you mean. (That > is not the way the GNU Project works.) It is a single project that is > meant to be coherent as a whole, and the Emacs maintainers are in > charge of the whole thing. So, no provisions for respecting the author of the code, or deferring to the technical opinion of the maintainer of a particular part of Emacs? Even for non-critical issues? One would think a project as old GNU would have considered non-technical aspects like that. If only to avoid ostracizing contributors. > There are parts of Emacs that are developed and maintained by specific people or groups. Some of them take the form of "packages" while others are simply areas of expertise. The Emacs maintainers mostly leave those areas to the people who work on them, to divide up the task. This makes is sound like the bulk of the work is performed by people tasked with the said work by the maintainers. Which is very often not the case.