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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255883 Archived-At: > Easy-mode as opposed to expert, obviously. ;) > Starter-mode > Familiar-mode > Familiar-defaults-easy-start-mode? ;) newbie-mode ___________ Someone who's a newbie and sees "Newbie" can think (at least) two things: 1. It's easy, intended for newbies, so maybe it's for me, at least for now. 2. Maybe it's something I might want to grow out of. It's maybe not the "real" or "full" thing. There's more to Emacs than this mode. #1 can encourage a newbie, especially if timid, to try it. #2 can encourage someone to move beyond it, and discover and use more of Emacs. The Emacs Wiki has long had pages that aimed especially at newbies, and referred to as such. They've helped a lot of people, and I've never seen a negative reaction to use of the term "newbie". This is like "training wheels" for someone learning to ride a bike. You trust them, use them to help you get going, but you want to get to a point where you can really ride without them.