From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Add the archive name column in the list-packages table Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 11:25:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <704b198c-d6b8-4751-9ea8-1748da48c11d@default> References: <87wql1w6io.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <87r4axu4dm.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <87k3gorvs4.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <87eh6adbqr.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <87ob5easv5.fsf@gmail.com> <8738mpde1p.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <87a9gxom9x.fsf@gmail.com> <87y54hbv9j.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <87a9gx7i24.fsf@gmail.com> <87d2lta89a.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1385061943 1520 80.91.229.3 (21 Nov 2013 19:25:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 19:25:43 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 21 20:25:48 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VjZsn-0004Wc-Qo for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 20:25:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34945 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VjZsm-00033u-VV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 14:25:45 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48392) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VjZsT-0002yK-Py for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 14:25:34 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VjZsL-0004gr-0M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 14:25:25 -0500 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:35484) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VjZsK-0004gY-Pj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 14:25:16 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id rALJPDIC001420 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 19:25:14 GMT Original-Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rALJPDF2020992 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 19:25:13 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0004.oracle.com (abhmp0004.oracle.com [141.146.116.10]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rALJPCL6008525 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 19:25:12 GMT In-Reply-To: <87d2lta89a.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 156.151.31.81 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:165504 Archived-At: > Consider me completely opposed to tooltips. They require hovering, > don't work in a terminal, and are hard to read. But what's a "tooltip"? Emacs can use the echo area for "tooltip" text. Does that use provide a "tooltip"? Not in the usual sense. But Emacs is not so usual, in general. We used to have variable `tooltip-use-echo-area', whose name even suggested that Emacs was using the echo area as a tooltip. Call it what you might. It shows the same info as a tooltip. And no, you do *not* have to hover over the zone. You do not even have to have a mouse. emacs -Q -nw C-h f forward-char C-h f backward-char C-x o ; to get to *Help* TAB ; see :help ("tooltip") text in echo area TAB ; see next zone's :help text in echo area Without -nw, just turn off `tooltip-mode'. Same behavior as above.