From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Character folding in the pretest Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2016 16:04:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6f09a781-8020-4ae0-9afe-a896d5ba1083@default> References: <<87mvrg2zid.fsf@wanadoo.es> <20160204.180523.769253593641901728.wl@gnu.org> <20160205.070103.162978216111829522.wl@gnu.org> <877fifs3fy.fsf@mbork.pl>> <<8360xzqejk.fsf@gnu.org> <87twljqacn.fsf@mbork.pl>> <<83oabrouwj.fsf@gnu.org>> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1454976336 25541 80.91.229.3 (9 Feb 2016 00:05:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 00:05:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ofv@wanadoo.es, lokedhs@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , Marcin Borkowski Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 09 01:05:24 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aSvo3-0004Pd-LC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 01:05:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50091 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aSvo3-00029A-49 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2016 19:05:23 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50716) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aSvnM-0001Mb-RI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2016 19:04:41 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aSvnM-0006kI-14 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2016 19:04:40 -0500 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:46363) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aSvnH-0006jY-TT; Mon, 08 Feb 2016 19:04:36 -0500 Original-Received: from aserv0022.oracle.com (aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u1904Ys3011314 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 9 Feb 2016 00:04:34 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u1904W0f015201 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 9 Feb 2016 00:04:32 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0003.oracle.com (abhmp0003.oracle.com [141.146.116.9]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u1904UB0002569; Tue, 9 Feb 2016 00:04:32 GMT In-Reply-To: <<83oabrouwj.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 141.146.126.69 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:199567 Archived-At: > > Drew is right: if this is not configurable by users, it might end up > > more annoying than helping. >=20 > It's already configurable, always have been. This is Emacs, right? What I suggested was introducing easy, flexible, powerful ways to customize/configure. I gave more specifics, including ability to (easily) define multiple equivalence classes, switch among them, combine them in various ways, associate them with given modes, etc. "This is Emacs" and "this is Lisp", therefore you can do nearly anything is not what I had in mind. FWIW, I suggested these things not because otherwise "it might end up more annoying than helping". It's already a useful feature. But it can and should become more useful still. There's no hurry, but there's also no harm in thinking about what ways a user might interact with such possible additional features.