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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:305470 Archived-At: On 4/19/2023 3:06 PM, Dmitry Gutov wrote: > - Add a user option for the list of builtin packages which would be > upgraded automatically by 'package-menu-mark-upgrades' and 'M-x > package-upgrade-all' (nee package-update-all). Maybe make it nil by > default, or maybe add 'eglot' to it. I don't have a strong opinion. I think (with some fixes), 'package-pinned-packages' should work for this. If you want to get Eglot from GNU ELPA, then you can pin it as such, and it should do the right thing. Unfortunately, it doesn't *actually* do the right thing, but I think that's pretty clearly a bug.