From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Lexical byte-compilation warnings cleanup Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 17:10:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6daf4da3-1d3a-4f4c-9db8-7174fb6da584@default> References: <5cd4c948-8187-4901-8c17-1db4c7288fe7@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1377043833 4650 80.91.229.3 (21 Aug 2013 00:10:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 00:10:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Daniel Hackney , Emacs development discussions To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 21 02:10:34 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VBw0P-0005u0-J4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 02:10:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50769 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VBw0O-0005VV-UZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 20:10:32 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39908) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VBw0C-0005V7-AW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 20:10:28 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VBw02-0002Wy-Jy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 20:10:19 -0400 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:46758) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VBw02-0002WT-Cd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 20:10:10 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r7L0A7lB027279 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 21 Aug 2013 00:10:08 GMT Original-Received: from userz7022.oracle.com (userz7022.oracle.com [156.151.31.86]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r7L0A5Jq014343 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 21 Aug 2013 00:10:07 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt101.oracle.com (abhmt101.oracle.com [141.146.116.53]) by userz7022.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r7L0A580028343; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 00:10:05 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 156.151.31.81 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:162939 Archived-At: > >> Indeed, it does not refer to the dynamically bound variable. > > Why is that? Will this be fixed, or is this the intended design? ^^^^^^^^^^^^ >=20 > Intended design. And the intention is? The design is? The reason is? > > Even if things are currently a work in progress, is that the direction > > you intend to head, or are you aiming elsewhere? >=20 > I have never aimed to do what CL does. As language designers, we just > take idea from here and there. >=20 > Elisp's design is different from CL's design partly for historical > reasons but also for technical reasons: Elisp needs to be interpretable > efficiently, for example. OK, and how does the need for efficient interpretation enter into the design decision that a function parameter whose name is the same as a dynamically scoped variable is "not allowed" or does not refer to that variable?