From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: some accept-process-output races fixed; Tramp FIXMEs Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2019 09:36:15 -0800 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <6d537644-9b50-b71d-30a5-e8554e0b845c@cs.ucla.edu> References: <46ce72ef-c4cb-1cd1-566a-c305ca92e68c@cs.ucla.edu> <80d86b5a-efb7-87cc-a3db-0a6ad356274d@cs.ucla.edu> <875zujlkhv.fsf@gmx.de> <87tvi0tipl.fsf@gmx.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="83464"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier , Michael Albinus Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 23 18:37:21 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1gmMSm-000LZm-0u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 Jan 2019 18:37:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39171 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gmMSk-0001o5-Pr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 Jan 2019 12:37:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:45100) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gmMS4-0001Sa-MV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jan 2019 12:36:37 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gmMS0-0007Lb-Bk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jan 2019 12:36:36 -0500 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:40432) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gmMRy-0007Dx-6U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jan 2019 12:36:32 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AEAD161155; Wed, 23 Jan 2019 09:36:16 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id 7KfrLU9actrj; Wed, 23 Jan 2019 09:36:15 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50ED516114F; Wed, 23 Jan 2019 09:36:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id HWH2D8hP7J_z; Wed, 23 Jan 2019 09:36:15 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU (Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.64.200]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3515F16112B; Wed, 23 Jan 2019 09:36:15 -0800 (PST) Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=eggert@cs.ucla.edu; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= xsFNBEyAcmQBEADAAyH2xoTu7ppG5D3a8FMZEon74dCvc4+q1XA2J2tBy2pwaTqfhpxxdGA9 Jj50UJ3PD4bSUEgN8tLZ0san47l5XTAFLi2456ciSl5m8sKaHlGdt9XmAAtmXqeZVIYX/UFS 96fDzf4xhEmm/y7LbYEPQdUdxu47xA5KhTYp5bltF3WYDz1Ygd7gx07Auwp7iw7eNvnoDTAl KAl8KYDZzbDNCQGEbpY3efZIvPdeI+FWQN4W+kghy+P6au6PrIIhYraeua7XDdb2LS1en3Ss mE3QjqfRqI/A2ue8JMwsvXe/WK38Ezs6x74iTaqI3AFH6ilAhDqpMnd/msSESNFt76DiO1ZK QMr9amVPknjfPmJISqdhgB1DlEdw34sROf6V8mZw0xfqT6PKE46LcFefzs0kbg4GORf8vjG2 Sf1tk5eU8MBiyN/bZ03bKNjNYMpODDQQwuP84kYLkX2wBxxMAhBxwbDVZudzxDZJ1C2VXujC OJVxq2kljBM9ETYuUGqd75AW2LXrLw6+MuIsHFAYAgRr7+KcwDgBAfwhPBYX34nSSiHlmLC+ KaHLeCLF5ZI2vKm3HEeCTtlOg7xZEONgwzL+fdKo+D6SoC8RRxJKs8a3sVfI4t6CnrQzvJbB n6gxdgCu5i29J1QCYrCYvql2UyFPAK+do99/1jOXT4m2836j1wARAQABzSBQYXVsIEVnZ2Vy dCA8ZWdnZXJ0QGNzLnVjbGEuZWR1PsLBfgQTAQIAKAUCTIByZAIbAwUJEswDAAYLCQgHAwIG FQgCCQoLBBYCAwECH In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 131.179.128.68 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:232649 Archived-At: On 1/23/19 8:47 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote: > If the bugs have all been fixed already, then maybe we could also use > a nil timeout in older Emacsen, but we've lived with 0.1 in them, so > I think it's OK to keep using a suboptimal value there. 0.1 is not merely suboptimal (i.e., slower than it should be), it's also incorrect (as it can sometimes lose data due to races). Even if we must use 0.1 in older Emacs to work around more-serious bugs there, we should use nil in Emacs master.