From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alex ARNAUD Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Accessibility: caret tracking in emacs with gnome shell magnifier Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 11:06:23 +0100 Message-ID: <6cdfe9b3-45bb-600c-2e8b-6e0570a1a10f@arnaud.link> References: <39e22d6d-8226-e668-7a76-b540bdf15afc@u-cergy.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="56355"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.5.1 To: Eric Danan , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 25 15:21:04 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1gyH7w-000EaQ-A8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Feb 2019 15:21:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38138 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gyH7v-0004Vd-7L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Feb 2019 09:21:03 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:57305) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gyDA4-0000AS-HI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Feb 2019 05:07:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gyD9f-00080z-CU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Feb 2019 05:06:46 -0500 Original-Received: from relay9-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.199]:43425) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gyD9f-0007uJ-5k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Feb 2019 05:06:35 -0500 X-Originating-IP: 91.200.205.67 Original-Received: from [10.10.111.45] (unknown [91.200.205.67]) (Authenticated sender: alex@arnaud.link) by relay9-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6EE5DFF814; Mon, 25 Feb 2019 10:06:23 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <39e22d6d-8226-e668-7a76-b540bdf15afc@u-cergy.fr> Content-Language: en-US X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 217.70.183.199 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 09:17:26 -0500 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:233602 Archived-At: Hello Eric, I'm myself a visual-impaired and an emacs users. I advise you to run emacs inside the GNOME Terminal. The steps are: 1) Open GNOME Terminal 2) Write the command "emacs -nw" I personally use Debian GNU/Linux, Mate and Compiz Reloaded focus tracking feature because I found them more reliable for those reasons: - There is an accessibility team inside Debian - Mate team take care of accessibility and offer a more natural desktop experience - I'm participating to the screen magnifier and focus tracking of Compiz reloaded so I couldn't be fully objective but I hope our focus tracking feature is more reliable than the GNOME One, if not, don't hesitate to fill a bug. Best regards, Alex. Le 25/02/2019 à 10:34, Eric Danan a écrit : > Hello, > > Due to a visual impairment I constantly work with a screen magnifier > turned on (in full screen mode), and I need it to track the caret to > follow what I am typing. > > So far I am using emacs 26.1 on cygwin on windows 10, and the windows 10 > magnifier does the job of tracking the caret. > > I am considering switching to gnome on linux and therefore installed the > fedora (version 29) distribution to try it out. The gnome (3.30) shell > magnifier supports caret tracking and it works in other applications but > not emacs (26.1). > > I previously sent this message to the gnome accessibility list (that was > a long time ago in 2015, so with earlier versions of emacs and gnome) > and got a reply from Alex Arnaud (cc) stating: > > > I've tried to test Emacs with Accercicer (a accessibility debug tool) > and my conclusion are Emacs doesn't connect it to AT-SPI (accessibility > stack). > > He also suggested that I write to this list, which I'm (finally!) doing. > I hope it is appropriate to report this here. > > Best regards, > > Eric