From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Remove "Recent messages" from `M-x report-emacs-bug' Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 07:44:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6ccbf505-5818-432b-98fa-0733930be2e7@default> References: <87k2j3jq28.fsf@gnus.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1462805494 18044 80.91.229.3 (9 May 2016 14:51:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 14:51:34 +0000 (UTC) To: Lars Ingebrigtsen , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 09 16:51:22 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1azmQn-0003f7-PV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 May 2016 16:45:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41667 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1azmQm-0007Ju-T5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 May 2016 10:45:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45162) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1azmQi-0007Dc-UC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 May 2016 10:45:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1azmQc-0003xx-Rh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 May 2016 10:45:03 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:25679) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1azmQc-0003ww-Jf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 May 2016 10:44:58 -0400 Original-Received: from aserv0021.oracle.com (aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u49EitRC015602 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 9 May 2016 14:44:55 GMT Original-Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by aserv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u49EisUh014615 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 9 May 2016 14:44:55 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0005.oracle.com (abhmp0005.oracle.com [141.146.116.11]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id u49EirnP026220; Mon, 9 May 2016 14:44:54 GMT In-Reply-To: <87k2j3jq28.fsf@gnus.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6744.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 141.146.126.69 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:203711 Archived-At: > Emacs bug reports include the ten most recent lines from the *Messages* > buffer. I think that's kinda unfortunate -- there may be private stuff > there that people are not expecting to share with the world. >=20 > And I've never found that data useful when doing bug triage. >=20 > Should we remove it from the report? It should possible for a _user_ to easily decide this, and not just for the most recent lines from *Messages*. Users should be able choose the default behavior for themselves - which types of info to automatically include when they use `M-x report-emacs-bug'. And if they choose to not include certain types of info by default they should still be able to easily include it interactively, for any given bug report. Library `emacsbug+.el' offers this, with option `ebp-report-emacs-bug-included-fields' and these commands: `ebp-insert-all', `ebp-insert-features', `ebp-insert-load-path-shadows', `ebp-insert-major-mode', `ebp-insert-minor-modes', `ebp-insert-recent-input', `ebp-insert-recent-messages', `ebp-insert-settings', `ebp-insert-version'. The default value of the option includes all of the fields: (version settings major-mode minor-modes recent-input recent-messages load-shadows features) https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/download/emacsbug%2b.el So to satisfy only your concern, a user would only need to remove `recent-messages' from the option value. If your suggestion of removing it by default were taken, then it would just be removed from the default value of the option. FWIW, I suggested such a user-control feature for vanilla Emacs, but it was rejected. See this (long) emacs-devel thread: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2013-01/msg00431.html