From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A new user perspective about "Changes for emacs 28" Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2020 00:15:13 +0300 Message-ID: <6b2eb02e-ec23-4ffe-9e11-5f4532f2bd15@yandex.ru> References: <1ca462fa-0f9e-3c18-6386-f43f49388b2f@gmail.com> <20200907180812.5tfylspp7i6vl4o3@Ergus> <94fda087-a61b-356d-4bb4-791907593246@yandex.ru> <24302cf8-5ac8-4abd-83ce-3e33c51a8beb@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31807"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.10.0 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Drew Adams , Ergus , Nicola Manca Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 07 23:16:06 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kFOUg-0008AX-Ei for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 23:16:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49892 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFOUf-0003Lx-Gd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 17:16:05 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49220) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFOTw-0002ns-3D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 17:15:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-lj1-x22b.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::22b]:37342) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFOTt-0000aS-DA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 17:15:19 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-lj1-x22b.google.com with SMTP id n25so6551367ljj.4 for ; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 14:15:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=QyFtPJ4psiqmAsCBEJngEvGFravHbps21AWjA/8Cs8o=; b=d7eN5XS0IUVvSxsVlhOuZ0fctfDl7KaOiY1YTrsAiVoZ7i0t8GBErtA3PtdlPKsNHU rywTLc6qqQsNcqF4zYmeaoYgIXEylEY7kRr0b1KYzoC0EP+6h/8N6/+fIG/a9ApqDDcW 5vhAq3yYI9pecnbWR9G7ueEw44WcaXrZi1WuLGgJYQf0DdhYjjxkpN7Ng0Lp06g3VYGK ZifZPqqs1vIRn8cIKuVvp9Lr4kj70lg5cTkYst/8gp+YjWs/6SVsDIvxV2MJIEHqXFd4 A4YiADCIKxSDqOeG7JJRpw8UUDCITUsh8rzllW38oXGcZD4xXjy/1jOb4YoT9SMbEF07 zTwA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id :date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=QyFtPJ4psiqmAsCBEJngEvGFravHbps21AWjA/8Cs8o=; b=HUYLJRQ6SkMDLu/Y1Z9kIzcXZawyzuBTVPzDPneX2iwPFEfy90unpPWhmipkk8CJAk spWy8I6Gg454xbHTWrHCI1fWrpklZBiXHhLlQj7jIKWELcJAnKcqrnlmPIDPYoQwligl tGyhtMfqE4IJWRL4GCqPOWF6QgxwYLLW1mXA05mmJv4EcmFliZTOaRJDshtu82GYE8/i jzm7Xa1IVZ5oYvLdVKJVRRwIqyVsuyqFdV/WvMIAlyYcykVYdBq44EUE0l07ei68n+yr 1IXqjbQN0A8scJmxPGF+EAjpiejndeGvnOAgAe3Ix+hBHmGDayF7zbN1AIJajpxStkLF aEyQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533C8AKUeSjuEodvzYdy9oFjvwPkABLiBWyj017tdhVHEZ88Iv17 30UfNUruZ5VOASYtiOdzciWVsZRCpQg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyDhvDw+SRctWoyw3VSZB45aHDV0+RSumDJk9eeYhZXVdrUXm9hYVg3GvEvZRZJUMTtcSp2wQ== X-Received: by 2002:a2e:92d6:: with SMTP id k22mr11224667ljh.332.1599513314892; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 14:15:14 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.0.104] ([94.229.108.16]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id t15sm7032265ljg.139.2020.09.07.14.15.13 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 07 Sep 2020 14:15:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::22b; envelope-from=raaahh@gmail.com; helo=mail-lj1-x22b.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -32 X-Spam_score: -3.3 X-Spam_bar: --- X-Spam_report: (-3.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.249, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, NICE_REPLY_A=-1.825, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:254682 Archived-At: On 08.09.2020 00:11, Drew Adams wrote: >>> Why on earth would we do that? Emacs undo >>> is superior. >> >> undo-tree is superior. > > So now you're proposing that as the default, instead > of the keybindings you proposed earlier today? Nope. You're welcome to re-read the original message.