From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Jan D." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: sendmail.el bug or expected behavior? Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 15:25:05 +0100 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <6F619120-500B-11D8-A6B1-00039363E640@swipnet.se> References: <877jzn2lk8.fsf@raven.i.defaultvalue.org> <16401.5059.249741.523854@chiark.greenend.org.uk> <16404.63472.223534.499091@chiark.greenend.org.uk> <876E93D9-5003-11D8-BC55-00039363E640@swipnet.se> <16405.6371.146753.920453@chiark.greenend.org.uk> <9F0108AE-5006-11D8-BAB0-00039363E640@swipnet.se> <16405.8160.368983.564809@chiark.greenend.org.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v609) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1075127740 13091 80.91.224.253 (26 Jan 2004 14:35:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 14:35:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Simon Josefsson , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 26 15:35:33 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Al7pt-0005Is-00 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 15:35:33 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Al7pt-0007AW-00 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 15:35:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1Al7o9-00010U-2o for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 09:33:45 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1Al7nw-0000zT-AX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 09:33:32 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1Al7l3-00005c-Nx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 09:31:05 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.41.8] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.24) id 1Al7jk-0007kS-Sy; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 09:29:12 -0500 Original-Received: from [213.115.192.53] (helo=mail2.norrnet.net) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1Al7gi-0001Qr-0x; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 09:26:04 -0500 Original-Received: from stubby.bodenonline.com (stubby.bodenonline.com [193.201.16.94]) by mail2.norrnet.net (BorderWare MXtreme Mail Firewall) with ESMTP id 302008A7D8; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 15:26:02 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from accessno42.bodenonline.com (accessno42.bodenonline.com [193.201.16.44]) by stubby.bodenonline.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id i0QFHrpi024173; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 16:17:53 +0100 In-Reply-To: <16405.8160.368983.564809@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Original-To: Ian Jackson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.609) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:19486 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:19486 >>> Currently there are large numbers of places where Emacs sometimes >>> loses mail ! >> >> But since delivery is made in the foreground, you notice when that >> happens. Is it worth it to exchange this to a situation where mail >> is prehaps very quietly not delivered? > > No, the situation I'm complaining about is precisely silent mail loss. > I think you're mistaken about the current default: it's to deliver in > the _background_, because Emacs effectively backgrounds > /usr/lib/sendmail. Actually, I have mail-interactive set to t, I forgot about that. What about setting timeouts to a lower value, wouldn't that help? Jan D.