From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?B?7KGw7ISx67mI?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Declaring cl.el obsolete Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 10:22:10 +0900 Message-ID: <6E933FEA-D46A-4E04-AC4B-0152BA1FF50A@icloud.com> References: <1d285be5-7018-64dc-7fd9-3709949727c7@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="63610"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Romanos Skiadas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 24 03:22:35 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hTyup-000GRE-GZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 24 May 2019 03:22:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45737 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hTyuo-0002Es-7u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 23 May 2019 21:22:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52481) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hTyud-0002Em-ET for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 23 May 2019 21:22:24 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hTyub-000426-Jd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 23 May 2019 21:22:23 -0400 Original-Received: from st43p00im-zteg10063401.me.com ([17.58.63.175]:43661) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hTyuZ-0003xo-N8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 23 May 2019 21:22:19 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=icloud.com; s=04042017; t=1558660936; bh=K7gV8dNpYc/tBAmoSkhiPhVuU5SybPFusjSrZlvaDLQ=; h=Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:Date:Message-Id:To; b=wcXuIJ7RLqxTgj36de+6gQQyhshoGeWa2Wj2guITPeY5XsQA7vjalUIaNVZ3Bwl0c nYZM7aUepGux2mgkap8kccsV0B9jxTIB91Z4lmKTcJfa8QcYi10c7DUhmHc5+yhbdh mmls2y2WIUW71q4mQeWhqMgw5tGTLO+RDWgXVz5eXGW1QP4jDy6amNxjuWHrLZ9xy0 cwtGs0RqZYopIhWSL2PEHPvzxtEM/k2pLVyhh0p9OtiATwkdF+5Oos18QSZ+ITiMDi w+3c6c6Vesu8rZ/jMurGBBEVG4qEixMl78iiOQcxwVMwies0VK9Xs8Gy7e3CT8z0C7 qa6EN1JutwV+g== Original-Received: from [10.56.218.59] (unknown [128.134.203.66]) by st43p00im-zteg10063401.me.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 295CC8A0D3A; Fri, 24 May 2019 01:22:14 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <1d285be5-7018-64dc-7fd9-3709949727c7@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:, , definitions=2019-05-23_18:, , signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1011 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1812120000 definitions=main-1905240006 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 17.58.63.175 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:236955 Archived-At: > 2019. 5. 24. =EC=98=A4=EC=A0=84 2:03, Romanos Skiadas = =EC=9E=91=EC=84=B1: >=20 > On 23/05/2019 09:50, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: >> Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: >>=20 >>> I think there's a probably a gazillion out-of-tree packages out = there >>> with (require 'cl), >> OK, "722,834 code results" is a bit smaller than "gazillion", but: >>=20 >> = https://github.com/search?utf8=3D%E2%9C%93&q=3D%22%28require+%27cl%29%22+e= xtension%3Ael&type=3DCode&ref=3Dadvsearch&l=3D&l=3D >>=20 >> (You apparently have to be logged in to do the search.) >>=20 > This is slightly misleading, it seems like github also takes into = account (require 'cl-lib), e.g. it matched >=20 > = https://github.com/chetnashah/dotemacs/blob/f6b1d41d52000e70ec970499c98e42= 4af3cd2e40/.emacs.d/elpa/slime-20160907.602/contrib/slime-listener-hooks.e= l=20 >=20 > from page 100: >=20 > = https://github.com/search?l=3D&p=3D100&q=3D%22%28require+%27cl%29%22+exten= sion%3Ael&ref=3Dadvsearch&type=3DCode&utf8=3D%E2%9C%93 I also see GitHub matching (require =E2=80=98cl-lib) from page 3: Matched = https://github.com/martialboniou/Dots/blob/e116fb08e406243f847af63760877d7= c6d14a91c/emacs/emacs.d.symlink/lisp/run-tests.el At=20 https://github.com/search?p=3D3&q=3D%22%28require+%27cl%29%22+extension%3A= el > And it also takes into account comments and ifs for older Emacsen, = which presumably are ok. >=20 > - Romanos >=20 >=20