From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Reitter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: saveplace: don't ask for coding system Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:25:29 +0000 Message-ID: <6C0C2889-2C17-4E5C-BDB3-CB4F51BE163A@gmail.com> References: <198E2B70-D060-41D8-8BC2-A9614C2729CC@inf.ed.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1196295970 32721 80.91.229.12 (29 Nov 2007 00:26:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:26:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 29 01:26:18 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IxXEA-0006CO-K9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:26:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IxXDu-0008CJ-Tq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:25:46 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IxXDq-00088h-JM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:25:42 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IxXDp-00085W-0g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:25:42 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IxXDo-00085G-Nr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:25:40 -0500 Original-Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.191]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IxXDo-0007VL-Ex for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:25:40 -0500 Original-Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id f5so1546233nfh for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:25:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=DpZuosZZmano01DnNsQ5rt6KItWtvjiHXNIPGlrPam8=; b=grJQSNVuM5ObAMJ3tWq+/BVujMapUG/1kesV0NXtbbGTKZVBT4XzLEirUosj1wpCAqrIaLpn1VXUUxQfwuEYEPa6IbGLbp0EKAwlkd6JyNzd02dxB3r+Ot+YKamWYsdC+kVU9oCt2KRI4PPts115tBw1ghGVRFooHgdqjRDRgdk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=received:cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer; b=XHTkOz1WeGBrEK9ZWAnHVXSrhD/3b1msyzTvD34NeLj7myiZt1H0w/Q61KVnxeD31j0N5sKOWitxT62frezw3wl3uZhWrsYaFkYnWuYRR70jaSdlANi9myNyttyZ3xg2E7OcewpX8C8m44ezNKdKEQAnVG4BfxaA7XzrSEuYwXA= Original-Received: by 10.86.84.5 with SMTP id h5mr5475945fgb.1196295939297; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:25:39 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from scarlett.lan ( [86.151.118.16]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f3sm5395772nfh.2007.11.28.16.25.36 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:25:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.915) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:84269 Archived-At: On 28 Nov 2007, at 21:47, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > FWIW, I don't think UTF-8 is a good idea here, since it cannot encode > all the characters Emacs supports. Maybe emacs-mule? You'll know best what should be used. The coding system should support all characters in file names (that are supported). >> ! ;; (message "Saving places to %s..." file) > > I think there should be a user option to disable this, instead of > disabling it unconditionally. I, for example, quite like this > message. If you like this message, presumably you'll like "such" messages in general. I wonder if this hasn't come up before: could we not have a global verbosity level? If it is well-defined, all parts including modes could respect it. One could have an optional argument to `message', indicating the level of the particular message. In a case like the above (and, for the sake of the argument, we assume places could be saved interactively), I would go for a medium to low level, indicating progress at a usually quick process, which is, by default, only displayed when the function was called interactively.