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From: Gregory Heytings <gregory@heytings.org>
To: "João Távora" <joaotavora@gmail.com>
Cc: tomas@tuxteam.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org, Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Subject: Re: A read-based grep-like for symbols (el-search?) (was Do shorthands break basic tooling (tags, grep, etc)? (was Re: Shorthands have landed on master))
Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2021 11:57:12 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6969a83a74b57d3d7839@heytings.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALDnm53EF2a7LuoUBC=8qiGOtEaTXfceRX4rS4syHV7W6gp0hQ@mail.gmail.com>


>> but why would it break that use case? Could you indicate what would be 
>> put in the elisp-shorthands for (a) the s.el library, and (b) a user 
>> library that uses s.el?
> 
> Someone else can explain, but it's the same thing for both. Or you can 
> go read the fine manual.
>

RTFM isn't exactly a useful answer.  And no, the manual doesn't explain 
what you want to do.  Apparently you have a specific idea in mind, which 
is, in your own words, "to import s.el, dash.el, f.el and its user 
libraries with minimal changes to them."  Import where?  And why would you 
want to make their prefix names shorter than a single character?



  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-02 11:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 332+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-28  0:38 Do shorthands break basic tooling (tags, grep, etc)? (was Re: Shorthands have landed on master) Phil Sainty
2021-09-28  5:43 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-28  7:26   ` João Távora
2021-09-30  6:03   ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-30  8:20     ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-30 10:31       ` André A. Gomes
2021-09-30 10:54         ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-09-30 11:18           ` João Távora
2021-09-30 11:40             ` André A. Gomes
2021-09-30 16:58             ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-09-30 20:25               ` João Távora
2021-10-01  3:01                 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-30 11:30           ` André A. Gomes
2021-09-30 17:37             ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-09-30 11:46         ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-30 12:41           ` João Távora
2021-09-30 13:00             ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-09-30 13:26               ` João Távora
2021-09-30 14:26                 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-09-30 14:57                   ` João Távora
2021-09-30 15:50                     ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-09-30 16:02                       ` João Távora
2021-09-30 17:58                         ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-09-30 23:30                           ` João Távora
2021-10-04 15:29                   ` André A. Gomes
2021-09-30 13:18             ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-30 13:31               ` João Távora
2021-09-30 13:41                 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-30 16:23             ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-09-30 17:19               ` João Távora
2021-10-01  1:20                 ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-09-30 22:10               ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-09-30 22:22                 ` A read-based grep-like for symbols (el-search?) (was Do shorthands break basic tooling (tags, grep, etc)? (was Re: Shorthands have landed on master)) João Távora
2021-09-30 23:23                   ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-09-30 23:38                     ` João Távora
2021-10-01  1:17                       ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-10-01  7:02                       ` tomas
2021-10-01 13:15                         ` João Távora
2021-10-01 13:53                           ` tomas
2021-10-01 14:30                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-01 14:40                             ` João Távora
2021-10-01 15:48                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-01 16:05                                 ` João Távora
2021-10-01 16:11                                   ` João Távora
2021-10-01 16:41                                     ` João Távora
2021-10-01 23:17                                       ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-10-02  1:14                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-02  1:46                                         ` João Távora
2021-10-02  2:13                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-04 15:57                                           ` André A. Gomes
2021-10-02  1:05                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-02  1:30                                     ` João Távora
2021-10-02  1:43                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-02  2:05                                         ` João Távora
2021-10-02  2:24                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-02  8:39                                           ` Adam Porter
2021-10-02  8:36                                 ` Adam Porter
2021-10-02 12:16                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-02 23:18                                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-03 21:17                                   ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-07 22:21                                     ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-18 21:13                                       ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-18 21:22                                       ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-20  6:45                                         ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-20  8:00                                           ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-23 23:26                                             ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-01 22:58                               ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-01 23:03                                 ` João Távora
2021-10-02  8:50                                   ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-02 10:29                                     ` João Távora
2021-10-02 11:57                                       ` Gregory Heytings [this message]
2021-10-02 12:44                                         ` João Távora
2021-10-02 14:50                                           ` João Távora
2021-10-02 15:01                                           ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-02 15:22                                             ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-02 15:33                                               ` But then what are namespaces ? (was: A read-based grep-like for symbols (el-search?) (was Do shorthands break basic tooling (tags, grep, etc)? (was Re: Shorthands have landed on master))) João Távora
2021-10-02 19:42                                                 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-02 19:59                                                   ` But then what are namespaces ? Stefan Monnier
2021-10-02 20:41                                                     ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-02 21:05                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-02 21:09                                                         ` João Távora
2021-10-02 21:14                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-02 22:41                                                             ` João Távora
2021-10-02 22:49                                                               ` João Távora
2021-10-02 23:31                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-03 21:47                                                         ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-02 20:00                                                   ` But then what are namespaces ? (was: A read-based grep-like for symbols (el-search?) (was Do shorthands break basic tooling (tags, grep, etc)? (was Re: Shorthands have landed on master))) João Távora
2021-10-02 20:41                                                     ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-02 20:46                                                       ` João Távora
2021-10-03  1:15                                                   ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-10-02 15:25                                             ` A read-based grep-like for symbols (el-search?) (was Do shorthands break basic tooling (tags, grep, etc)? (was Re: Shorthands have landed on master)) João Távora
2021-10-02 16:08                                               ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-01 22:58                           ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-01 23:10                             ` João Távora
2021-10-02  9:03                               ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-02 10:25                                 ` João Távora
2021-10-01 23:04                         ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-09-30 12:34         ` Do shorthands break basic tooling (tags, grep, etc)? (was Re: Shorthands have landed on master) Tomas Hlavaty
2021-09-28  6:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-28  7:41   ` João Távora
2021-09-28  8:04     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-28  8:07     ` Helmut Eller
2021-10-02  1:06       ` João Távora
2021-09-28 12:40   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-28 15:28     ` João Távora
2021-09-28 19:21       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-28 17:25   ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-09-28 18:25     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-28 19:05       ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-09-28 19:29         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-30 12:23           ` Phil Sainty
2021-09-30 12:28             ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-30 12:29               ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-30 12:44             ` Joost Kremers
2021-09-30 13:18               ` Adam Porter
2021-10-01  0:11                 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-30 12:52             ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-09-30 12:55               ` João Távora
2021-09-30 13:49                 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-09-30 13:17             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-01  0:21               ` João Távora
2021-09-30 14:12             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-30 14:27               ` João Távora
2021-09-30 22:50               ` Phil Sainty
2021-10-01  0:44                 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-01  7:06                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-01  7:24                     ` João Távora
2021-10-01 10:10                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-01  6:09                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-01 12:24                   ` Phil Sainty
2021-10-01 13:00                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-02  0:28                       ` Phil Sainty
2021-10-02  6:45                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-02  7:44                           ` Phil Sainty
2021-10-02  8:53                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-02 10:52                             ` João Távora
2021-10-04  0:12                               ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-04  0:16                               ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-04 13:09                                 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-04 15:44                                 ` João Távora
2021-10-04 16:51                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-04 17:43                                     ` João Távora
2021-10-04 17:51                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-04 18:34                                   ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-04 19:15                                     ` João Távora
2021-10-04 19:30                                       ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-05 21:20                                         ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-06 13:12                                         ` João Távora
2021-10-05 21:20                                   ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-05 21:20                                   ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-05 22:07                                     ` João Távora
2021-10-05 22:15                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-06 11:28                                         ` João Távora
2021-10-06 12:21                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-06 12:30                                             ` João Távora
2021-10-06 12:46                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-06 13:16                                                 ` João Távora
2021-10-06 16:23                                                   ` João Távora
2021-10-06 20:00                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-06 21:10                                                       ` João Távora
2021-10-06 21:39                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-10 21:09                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-07 22:21                                       ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-07 22:24                                         ` João Távora
2021-10-08  6:08                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-08 12:58                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-08 13:22                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-10 21:06                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-10 21:18                                                   ` João Távora
2021-10-08 14:16                                               ` João Távora
2021-10-08 15:55                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-08 17:34                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-08 18:16                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-08 18:51                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-08 23:43                                                   ` João Távora
2021-10-01 22:38             ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-01 22:41               ` João Távora
2021-10-01 22:52               ` João Távora
2021-10-01 23:52               ` Phil Sainty
2021-10-02  1:38               ` T.V Raman
2021-09-28 19:30         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-28 18:38     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-28 19:14       ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-09-28 19:22         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-28 19:31           ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-09-28 19:41             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-30 22:10         ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-30 23:59           ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-09-28  7:21 ` João Távora
2021-09-28 12:49   ` Phil Sainty
2021-09-28 13:08     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-28 14:04       ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-28 15:01         ` Adam Porter
2021-09-28 15:20       ` João Távora
2021-09-28 19:23         ` Gregory Heytings
2021-09-28 15:15     ` João Távora
2021-09-30  6:06     ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-05  5:57       ` Elisp LSP Server Ag Ibragimov
2021-10-05  6:38         ` Po Lu
2021-10-05  9:50           ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-10-05 11:27             ` Po Lu
2021-10-05 11:46               ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-10-06 20:57                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-06 21:22                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-10-06 21:44                     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-07 22:27                     ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-07  0:49                   ` Po Lu
2021-10-10 12:48                     ` Ag Ibragimov
2021-10-10 14:19                       ` Daniel Martín
2021-10-10 16:49                         ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-10-10 19:25                           ` Daniel Martín
2021-10-11  7:44                         ` Po Lu
2021-10-11 21:15                           ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-12  5:29                           ` Ag Ibragimov
2021-10-12  5:48                             ` Po Lu
2021-10-12 17:14                               ` Ag Ibragimov
2021-10-12 17:46                                 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-12 20:53                                   ` dick
2021-10-13  2:29                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-13 11:56                                       ` dick
2021-10-13 13:19                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-13  4:47                                   ` Ag Ibragimov
2021-10-13  0:02                                 ` Po Lu
2021-10-27 14:36                                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-27 18:04                                   ` dick
2021-10-27 18:27                                     ` tomas
2021-10-27 18:33                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-27 18:55                                     ` Karl Fogel
2021-10-27 19:15                                       ` dick
2021-10-12  7:14                             ` tomas
2021-10-12  8:04                               ` Ag Ibragimov
2021-10-12 22:43                             ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-13  3:42                               ` Ag Ibragimov
2021-10-13  5:20                                 ` Po Lu
2021-10-13 12:39                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-13 12:49                                     ` Po Lu
2021-10-13 13:25                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-13 13:37                                         ` Po Lu
2021-10-13 13:53                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-13 23:42                                             ` Po Lu
2021-10-13 13:38                                         ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-10-14 22:22                                         ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-14 22:26                                     ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-15  6:35                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-15  9:54                                         ` Tim Cross
2021-10-12 22:43                             ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-13  5:36                               ` Ag Ibragimov
2021-10-13 22:40                                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-10 23:45                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-11  7:34                       ` Po Lu
2021-10-11  9:10                         ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-10-11 10:46                           ` Po Lu
2021-10-11 10:48                             ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-10-11 21:16                             ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-12  7:17                               ` tomas
2021-10-14 12:48                               ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-10-15 22:47                                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-11 21:10                       ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-22 16:23                       ` Mathias Dahl
2021-10-22 16:40                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-22 16:45                           ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-10-22 19:59                             ` Tim Cross
2021-10-22 22:27                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-22 22:48                                 ` Tim Cross
2021-10-22 23:11                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-23 23:27                                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-25  7:47                               ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-10-23  2:00                             ` Po Lu
2021-10-25  2:17                             ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-25  7:00                               ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-10-22 16:55                           ` Mathias Dahl
2021-10-22 20:55                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-25  2:17                             ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-25  7:22                               ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-10-25  7:45                                 ` Theodor Thornhill
2021-10-25  7:51                                   ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-10-25  8:23                                     ` Theodor Thornhill
2021-10-30  6:51                                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-11-01 11:48                                   ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-11-01 17:47                                     ` Tim Cross
2021-11-03  3:18                                     ` Richard Stallman
2021-11-03 20:06                                       ` Jostein Kjønigsen
2021-11-05  3:53                                         ` Richard Stallman
2021-11-05  5:55                                           ` Daniel Brooks
2021-11-05  6:25                                             ` Jostein Kjønigsen
2021-11-05  9:56                                       ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-10-25  5:46               ` Jostein Kjønigsen
2021-10-06 20:57             ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-06 21:35               ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-10-05 10:15         ` Joost Kremers
2021-10-06 20:57           ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-12  2:52             ` Ag Ibragimov
2021-10-12  3:37               ` dick
2021-10-12  3:43               ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-12 22:41                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-12  4:08               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-12  5:55               ` Po Lu
2021-10-12  7:22                 ` Ag Ibragimov
2021-10-12 10:21                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-10-12 12:14                     ` tomas
2021-10-12 12:51                       ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-10-12 13:08                         ` tomas
2021-10-12 12:22                   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-12 22:41                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-13  0:00                   ` Po Lu
2021-10-13  0:22                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-13  0:31                   ` Tim Cross
2021-10-13 17:15                     ` Joost Kremers
2021-10-13 17:34                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-13 20:00                         ` Tim Cross
2021-10-13 21:47                           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-13 23:14                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-14  6:39                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-14  6:58                             ` Po Lu
2021-10-14  6:52                           ` Po Lu
2021-10-14 11:08                             ` dick
2021-10-14 13:34                           ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-10-14  8:20                         ` João Távora
2021-10-15 22:51                           ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-16 19:02                             ` João Távora
2021-10-17 23:49                               ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-17 23:58                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-20 22:33                                   ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-18  0:32                                 ` Tim Cross
2021-10-18  1:18                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-18  2:23                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-18 12:43                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-18 13:13                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-14  7:01                       ` Po Lu
2021-10-14  8:43                         ` [OT] Elisp as a general purpose programming language (was: Elisp LSP Server) Joost Kremers
2021-10-14 10:37                           ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2021-10-14  7:03                     ` Elisp LSP Server Po Lu

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