From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Concern about new binding. Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2021 19:14:32 +0000 Message-ID: <663841c0e3d7644af86e@heytings.org> References: <87zh0mmr54.fsf@gmail.com> <83sg6brhyg.fsf@gnu.org> <5588fb25805d486be704@heytings.org> <5588fb2580d7e46863dd@heytings.org> <5588fb2580f248753c30@heytings.org> <5588fb25800032b1a06a@heytings.org> <993b9ce74de32c5450c3@heytings.org> <329d68a5ed872ee02e63@heytings.org> <329d68a5ed58df62b603@heytings.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17196"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Alfred M. Szmidt" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 14 20:29:30 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lBN5F-0004ML-N2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 14 Feb 2021 20:29:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33066 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lBN5E-0000yA-Kf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 14 Feb 2021 14:29:28 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50644) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lBMqu-0005ZN-Er for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Feb 2021 14:14:40 -0500 Original-Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:51776) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lBMqo-0004yI-Vv; Sun, 14 Feb 2021 14:14:40 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20210101; t=1613330072; bh=ymIwb3lri7hfybtduWFxdPd8nj/ZRZwqPU7P/j+CPdU=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=ewMloGTxxqX1QV/ZxEd7HkCPF6FQXKrFKgHH4jibCArk5hP74T+S6MB6raiVzpM/f UHZUizDt6NcbWqB69NVSgsCdQRA7XFc20NNKnsKqN933B7kGM12S01Di6VgEoZF762 9k4UhfxXjK3RrhfkHHRfZkV5UZnauL6DqbS6qKkj+ot6oSTyFcIdO59H9MjbR/UAgH wKos8iF7R2covWf9Xa5HHlEronc+f4dkL7awf8v8J5sl8f8LOg5HFMqksm4XBv8F1R Wf8vLRwV9bkI3liSDRrdyzwQBXNom8GUckLiLr2RygxoZh/h0wEUD9gZaJUdrLmZ9u 4ORTTYiKqBgfA== In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.142.160.155; envelope-from=gregory@heytings.org; helo=heytings.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:264769 Archived-At: >> That's what I thought until today, but indeed I may be wrong. Could >> you please explain how it is possible to use the super modifier in a >> console? > > Without any reconfigs, "C-x @ s x" for s-x (see the > event-apply-FOO-modifier functions). > That's not "using the super modifier", that's "a trick to fake the use of the super modifier". > > On GNU/Linux systems you can rebind Super_L/R to a Fn key or some other > such thing, and use it that way. I think you can check the loadkys and > dumpkeys commands. > Of course, everything is possible with tricks that most users don't know and will never know. What is important is that it doesn't work out of the box. Emacs does not assume users have a super modifier, third-party libraries can't assume that either.