From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Eli Zaretskii" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs 21.3.50 grep.el/executable.el problems Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 21:57:13 +0200 Sender: emacs-pretest-bug-bounces+gebp-emacs-pretest-bug=gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <6408-Mon16Feb2004215712+0200-eliz@elta.co.il> References: Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1076961872 31699 80.91.224.253 (16 Feb 2004 20:04:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 20:04:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rost@mathematik.uni-bielefeld.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org, emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-pretest-bug-bounces+gebp-emacs-pretest-bug=gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 16 21:04:26 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Asoyg-00078n-00 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2004 21:04:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AsoyW-0004j4-4P for gebp-emacs-pretest-bug@gmane.org; Mon, 16 Feb 2004 15:04:16 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AsowZ-0003gl-Bv for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Feb 2004 15:02:15 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AsouV-0002ng-P2 for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Feb 2004 15:00:40 -0500 Original-Received: from [192.114.186.24] (helo=legolas.inter.net.il) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1Asotz-0002Vz-2c; Mon, 16 Feb 2004 14:59:35 -0500 Original-Received: from zaretski (pns03-205-225.inter.net.il [80.230.205.225]) by legolas.inter.net.il (MOS 3.4.4-GR) with ESMTP id BJE84816; Mon, 16 Feb 2004 21:56:46 +0200 (IST) Original-To: Stefan Monnier X-Mailer: emacs 21.3.50 (via feedmail 8 I) and Blat ver 1.8.9 In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on 16 Feb 2004 11:14:35 -0500) X-BeenThere: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-pretest-bug-bounces+gebp-emacs-pretest-bug=gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:2139 gmane.emacs.devel:19992 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:19992 > From: Stefan Monnier > Date: 16 Feb 2004 11:14:35 -0500 > > > I got the impression that the grep/executable problems don't get > > fixed, because there should be perhaps a more extensive change. > > My opinion is that the "extensive" change would be to rip out the recent > change altogether. I already did that, at Richard's request. > What's the point of testing whether `find' is > a unix-like find or not since if it isn't we have no good alternative > anyway. The only point I could see is to give a more meaningful error > message for those few W32 folks who end up running some unrelated find.exe. > But even then, I highly doubt it'll make any significant difference or is > worth the trouble: the problem seem to be fairly infrequent and for those > people who do end up posting on gnu.emacs.help, I expect they would post as > well if the message said "you need to install a unix-like `find'" because > they have no idea what the message is telling them and where to find > a unix-like `find'. In my experience, on a Windows system this problem is pretty frequent, and when it happens, the error message that comes from the non-Posix `find' is so cryptic that even occasional gurus get confused. So IMHO a better error message from Emacs _is_ worth the trouble, just not the kind of trouble that Jari got us into ;-)