From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: A Modest Proposal Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 21:29:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <62e820f3-3f74-41fa-a707-f13ee35e05d4@default> References: <874mai4qhz.fsf@gnus.org> <83a8kao624.fsf@gnu.org> <270c962c-11c4-4b0c-9d62-211cbc6f9f47@default> <87y47t256w.fsf@gnus.org> <8337q1olk5.fsf@gnu.org> <9c426b06-f6d9-64f8-0581-6ce221676348@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1462336213 27791 80.91.229.3 (4 May 2016 04:30:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 04:30:13 +0000 (UTC) To: Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 04 06:30:02 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1axoRk-0007GE-V5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 06:30:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45663 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1axoRg-0003T9-Sn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 00:29:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34342) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1axoRY-0003DA-IX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 00:29:54 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1axoRM-0006DD-Tp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 00:29:43 -0400 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:46120) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1axoRM-000693-My for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 00:29:36 -0400 Original-Received: from aserv0021.oracle.com (aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u444TAQ5003775 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 4 May 2016 04:29:12 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by aserv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u444TAub020534 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 4 May 2016 04:29:10 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0006.oracle.com (abhmp0006.oracle.com [141.146.116.12]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u444T7kk027469; Wed, 4 May 2016 04:29:08 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6744.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 156.151.31.81 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:203572 Archived-At: > > Yes. Listing files using external tools is usually faster. >=20 > Is the difference sufficiently large to be noticeable in dired? Meanwhile, we seem to be headed in the opposite direction for `A' etc. - now requiring users to have an external `grep' and `find' commands. Not a good thing, IMHO. http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D23426#37