From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Andrew W. Nosenko" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: line-move-visual never set to nil? Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:16:37 +0300 Message-ID: <6161f3180808010316m7c3a78f5v1a63ec8f99e227bc@mail.gmail.com> References: <18571.25125.311010.324079@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <6161f3180807290043l2b0cc1as85a338204687f183@mail.gmail.com> <87y73kbvz3.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4891F546.2080505@gmail.com> <8763ql7hmk.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <48924CE0.9090603@gmail.com> <87wsj160bf.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <48925AD7.8010907@gmail.com> <87r6995zq2.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1217585826 5661 80.91.229.12 (1 Aug 2008 10:17:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:17:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, david.reitter@gmail.com, Chong Yidong , "Lennart Borgman \(gmail\)" , emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, raman@users.sourceforge.net To: "Miles Bader" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 01 12:17:55 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KOrhi-0000VS-QC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 12:17:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49416 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KOrgn-0001zR-Vh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 06:16:50 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KOrgg-0001wf-0s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 06:16:42 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KOrge-0001tb-HA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 06:16:41 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=50649 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KOrge-0001t1-8m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 06:16:40 -0400 Original-Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.242]:21288) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KOrgd-0001pX-Mw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 06:16:40 -0400 Original-Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id k29so1010938rvb.6 for ; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 03:16:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=FKp692Z87b+xbCKSB8rRvTx9LTmVZoru5BEHXiHL4OU=; b=mFeNGLY+KPDrXHpZggUDvnUJlUotFH3j40TUpZmYCaUmNP2k05xejUHP/YKr3ZOxoC acOeTs1W1x9Lf2JCLKjSuAVhNI0qlwO72ylazRz9sjrC04B255JL1TUfR69amMCG6YNa 5N3ba8q9iSI8VNnkmhnSFGxNnuq4fMpsRRe6o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=M/SbduKfSYf3NiytYT6cWnszLzbi2IoajMlB618rZ6m+z3hBDywgtt+xIpTImQ4fZ9 kgp8XBs3X/3JiACq1eQSU2WCws19q3UffQlNEtjtZUmH7AlPR/EOwm3/kR3vBiMTkcfa fpn0phe0s8L+nObg4JmsvaaKOlSDc4ZRPRLjE= Original-Received: by 10.140.201.15 with SMTP id y15mr5845247rvf.33.1217585798098; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 03:16:38 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.141.27.8 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 03:16:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87r6995zq2.fsf@catnip.gol.com> Content-Disposition: inline X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:101856 Archived-At: On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 3:46 AM, Miles Bader wrote: > "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" writes: >> I think this case is special. The special thing is the relation between >> the visual move and the buffer point. That relation changes according to >> something that is rather unrelated with the buffer contents but can >> easily be changed by the user. That makes the relation very volatile. > > Not really, given that (1) window-width changes quite rarely, Not always :-( While intentional changing of the frame size is rare indeed, they may be changed just because of bug. See "Shrinking frames as of past month" thread for example. (http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2008-03/msg01851.html) > and (2) most macros are used immediately (in the same buffer/window) and > then discarded (or rather, forgotten about). > > Anyway, what you're suggesting seems every bit as bad, or worse, than > the problem it's purporting to solve -- without, as far as I can see, > any actual evidence that there _is_ a problem (have we gotten any bug > reports?). -- Andrew W. Nosenko