From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Davis Herring" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: messages override minibuffer input Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:23:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <60802.128.165.0.81.1189657389.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov> References: <18146.9183.561171.347511@tfkp07.physik.uni-erlangen.de> <38233.128.165.123.18.1189460486.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov> <43404.128.165.123.18.1189636324.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov> <200709130323.l8D3NkJ2021648@jane.dms.auburn.edu> Reply-To: herring@lanl.gov NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1189657415 12989 80.91.229.12 (13 Sep 2007 04:23:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 04:23:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: roland.winkler@physik.uni-erlangen.de, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Luc Teirlinck" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 13 06:23:33 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IVgEk-0003tR-CM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 06:23:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IVgEj-00060z-WF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 00:23:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IVgEf-000605-Is for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 00:23:25 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IVgEe-0005ze-HE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 00:23:25 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IVgEe-0005za-Bd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 00:23:24 -0400 Original-Received: from mailwasher.lanl.gov ([204.121.3.2]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IVgEZ-00089k-SL; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 00:23:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mailrelay2.lanl.gov (mailrelay2.lanl.gov [128.165.4.103]) by mailwasher.lanl.gov (8.13.8/8.13.6/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id l8D4NDAQ007368; Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:23:14 -0600 Original-Received: from webmail1.lanl.gov (webmail1.lanl.gov [128.165.4.106]) by mailrelay2.lanl.gov (8.13.8/8.13.8/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id l8D4NA6O032083; Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:23:10 -0600 Original-Received: from webmail1.lanl.gov (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by webmail1.lanl.gov (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l8D4NA4i022903; Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:23:10 -0600 Original-Received: (from apache@localhost) by webmail1.lanl.gov (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11/Submit) id l8D4N91i022901; Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:23:09 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: webmail1.lanl.gov: apache set sender to herring@lanl.gov using -f Original-Received: from 128.165.0.81 (SquirrelMail authenticated user 196434) by webmail.lanl.gov with HTTP; Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:23:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200709130323.l8D3NkJ2021648@jane.dms.auburn.edu> User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-6.el3.2lanl X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-CTN-5-MailScanner-Information: Please see http://network.lanl.gov/email/virus-scan.php X-CTN-5-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-CTN-5-MailScanner-From: herring@lanl.gov X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:78730 Archived-At: > Yes, but the difference with the way I read (quickly) your function is > fundamental: `help-at-pt-maybe-display' _does_ override a "Quit" > message and this is absolutely necessary for correct functioning. > So at least this function should be left as is. I don't claim that my suggested implementation is final; perhaps a way to override certain existing messages could be included. (One could already simply let-bind the variable `optional-message' to pretend that "Quit" was the last one, but that would fail when the existing message was some other optional message to be overwritten. As a kludge, one could call `optional-message' with and without the let-binding, but at that point the existing implementation is probably better.) Davis -- This product is sold by volume, not by mass. If it appears too dense or too sparse, it is because mass-energy conversion has occurred during shipping.