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[111.89.228.40]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b8sm3003661pfi.129.2019.03.06.03.23.58 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 06 Mar 2019 03:23:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.102.3) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::42b X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:233862 Archived-At: > On Mar 6, 2019, at 18:38, Elias M=C3=A5rtenson=20 >=20 > The best way to do that (I fixed the almost 100% of the package.el = code with that) is to not use such syntax but rather things like: >=20 > Number of matches found: %d >=20 > That works for English most of the time (although I would argue that = it isn't great). I'm not sure why that is not "great" here. But I know from what I saw in = packages.el that what is even less great it to get lost in lisp that = attempts to mimic natural language inflections. > But it may be harder in other languages. It is unlikely that this structure is harder in non English languages = than the original. Removing the need to express the difference in number = actually removes an order of complexity. 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