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From: Andy Piper <andy@xemacs.org>
Cc: kfogel@red-bean.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org
Subject: Re: Permission to use portions of the recent GNU Emacs Manual
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 13:00:51 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.2.20041212125027.024c6900@mail.comcast.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1CdZdP-0004R2C@rattlesnake.com>

At 11:43 AM 12/12/2004, Robert J. Chassell wrote:
>Why is it not possible?  Are you suggesting that the XEmacs people
>lack proper papers for contributions?  If so, this means they cannot
>ever ensure that the lawyers of a hostile organization with plenty of
>money will tell the organization's leaders that the software is legal.
>That is what I think you are suggesting.

That's either amusing or insulting. XEmacs explicitly does not collect 
papers because we believe that hinders development of the product. The only 
reason we have tried to collect papers is promote greater cooperation with 
the GNU Emacs project.

>This means that the XEmacs project is rhetorically ineffective.  Since
>I doubt that many people on it are concerned about business patterns,
>politics and the like, I do not think this issue is salient to them.
>I think they are mainly concerned with programming and wish the wider
>world would go away.

Please do not make assumptions about we are or are not concerned with. If 
anything the XEmacs project is much more concerned with these things than 
the FSF appears to be.

I personally believe that the FSF's approach has contributed to making 
Emacs (and XEmacs) largely irrelevant today. So you can protect the code 
from big, bad companies - I highly doubt that anyone in the real world 
actually cares anymore.

andy 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-12-12 21:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-12-09 22:28 Permission to use portions of the recent GNU Emacs Manual Ben Wing
2004-12-10 23:14 ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-11  0:59   ` Ben Wing
2004-12-11  1:06     ` Miles Bader
2004-12-11 10:27   ` Alan Mackenzie
2004-12-11 18:19     ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-12-11 20:43       ` David Kastrup
2004-12-11 19:02     ` Stefan Monnier
2004-12-12  0:26       ` Karl Fogel
2004-12-12  8:57         ` David Kastrup
2004-12-12 16:56           ` Brian Palmer
2004-12-12 13:31       ` Matthew Mundell
2004-12-12 13:40         ` David Kastrup
2004-12-12  2:03     ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-12-12  4:59       ` Karl Fogel
     [not found]         ` <m1CdWGG-0004R2C@rattlesnake.com>
2004-12-12 17:43           ` David Kastrup
2004-12-12 18:39             ` Florian Weimer
2004-12-12 19:24               ` David Kastrup
2004-12-12 19:49                 ` Florian Weimer
2004-12-12 19:43             ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-12-12 19:59               ` David Kastrup
2004-12-12 20:46                 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-12-12 21:00               ` Andy Piper [this message]
2004-12-13  1:59                 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-12-13  2:23                   ` David Kastrup
2004-12-13 12:34                   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2004-12-13 16:53                     ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-12-15 14:23                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2004-12-15 19:14                         ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-12-15 20:19                           ` David Kastrup
2004-12-15 23:32                             ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-12-17  5:36                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2004-12-15 23:20                         ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-16 10:58                           ` David Kastrup
2004-12-16 12:18                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-12-16 12:29                             ` Kim F. Storm
2004-12-17  0:53                             ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-18 10:20                               ` Ben Wing
2004-12-18 23:32                                 ` Miles Bader
2004-12-19  6:31                                   ` Ben Wing
2004-12-19  6:32                                   ` Ben Wing
2004-12-19 13:54                                 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-12-19 15:40                                 ` David Kastrup
2004-12-19 16:10                                   ` Paul Pogonyshev
2004-12-19 21:32                                     ` David Kastrup
2004-12-19 23:48                                       ` Paul Pogonyshev
2004-12-20  8:07                                         ` David Kastrup
2004-12-20 14:05                                         ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-12-20  0:19                                       ` Ben Wing
2004-12-20  7:20                                         ` David Kastrup
2004-12-20 10:58                                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2004-12-20 10:56                                 ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-20 12:47                                   ` David Kastrup
2004-12-17  1:32                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2004-12-12  4:39     ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-12  6:16       ` Stefan Monnier
2004-12-12 21:28         ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-12-12 21:43           ` David Kastrup
2004-12-13  2:22             ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-12-13  6:48               ` Brian Palmer
2004-12-13 10:05                 ` David Kastrup
2004-12-13 17:44                   ` Bruce Stephens
2004-12-14 13:09                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2004-12-14  2:56               ` Karl Fogel
2004-12-14 14:16                 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-12-13  4:23           ` Dhruva
2004-12-13 19:51         ` Richard Stallman
2004-12-13 20:03           ` David Kastrup
2004-12-14 10:03             ` Per Abrahamsen
2004-12-14 10:14               ` David Kastrup
2004-12-14 14:09             ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-12-14 14:25               ` David Kastrup
2004-12-14 20:19                 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-12-14 22:09                   ` David Kastrup
2004-12-15  0:12                     ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-12-15  8:03                   ` Per Abrahamsen

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