From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gtk version getting closer Date: 13 Nov 2002 16:55:37 +0100 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <5xu1ilsbuu.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1037201263 21781 80.91.224.249 (13 Nov 2002 15:27:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:27:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18BzC3-00042d-00 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:12:39 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18BzO0-00066k-00 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:25:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18BzAY-00017X-00; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 10:11:06 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 18Byvm-0005vK-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:55:50 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 18Byvi-0005tt-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:55:49 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.filanet.dk ([195.215.206.179]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18Byvi-0005tn-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:55:46 -0500 Original-Received: from kfs2.cua.dk.cua.dk (kfs2.local.filanet.dk [192.168.1.182]) by mail.filanet.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id 093227C01C; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:55:43 +0000 (GMT) Original-To: bob@rattlesnake.com In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 28 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:9363 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:9363 "Robert J. Chassell" writes: > On 13 Nov 2002, Miles Bader wrote: > > > The way I use tooltips is to pause over something and wait to see if > > something pops up; if nothing does, I just think `oh there's no tooltip > > for that.' > > That makes sense. > > The problem is not with experts, but with people just learning. Such > people think that Emacs is broken when they don't see a tooltip. > > For example, all the menu items in the `File' and `Edit' menus have Maybe we could have a "tree-state" customize option here: - always show tooltips (generate a tooltip with the same text as the menu item if no explicit tooltip is specified) - show available tooltips (the current functionality - show tooltips is available) - no tooltips (never show tooltips for menu items). -- Kim F. Storm http://www.cua.dk