From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Fringe in Show/Hide menu? Date: 02 Apr 2002 23:52:09 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <5xn0wlhipi.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> References: <200204021827.g32IR2d11593@aztec.santafe.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1017783697 20264 127.0.0.1 (2 Apr 2002 21:41:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 21:41:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Pavel@Janik.cz, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16sW25-0005Gj-00 for ; Tue, 02 Apr 2002 23:41:37 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16sWDt-0005ak-00 for ; Tue, 02 Apr 2002 23:53:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16sVI4-0000ws-00; Tue, 02 Apr 2002 15:54:04 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.filanet.dk ([195.215.206.179]) by fencepost.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16sVFT-0000T8-00; Tue, 02 Apr 2002 15:51:23 -0500 Original-Received: from kfs2.cua.dk.cua.dk (unknown [10.1.82.3]) by mail.filanet.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id E30327C048; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 20:51:15 +0000 (GMT) Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <200204021827.g32IR2d11593@aztec.santafe.edu> Original-Lines: 46 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2.50 Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:2329 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:2329 Richard Stallman writes: > There is one problem - I do not see an easy way of saving this to .emacs > via customize. Do you have an idea? > > You need to first define a customizable variable to control the > feature. Look at the defcustom for menu-bar-mode to see how that can > be done. Then the menu commands can work by calling a function that > sets that variable and calling customize-mark-as-set. > > However, I think it is a very bad idea to nest the menus so deeply. > It is inconvenient to go down thru so many menus. > > Instead of having a submenu of fringe hiding commands, it is better > to have one command that cycles thru all 4 possibilities. I disagree. If the menus are sensible named and structured, I'd prefer to go through an extra level of menus _once_, rather than having to go through the whole menu selection _several_ times to cycle through the unwanted choices (and how do I know what the alternatives are without doing so?). > > I think menu-bar-showhide-scroll-bar-menu is also inconvenient and > should be replaced with a single command to cycle thru all 3 > possibilities. IMO, the current interface is much more user friendly than your proposal. And it is still simpler than: Help -> Describe -> Describe Language Environment -> European -> latin-1 > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-devel mailing list > Emacs-devel@gnu.org > http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel > > -- Kim F. Storm http://www.cua.dk