From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [CVS] f7, f8 bound.. Date: 27 Aug 2002 13:55:42 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <5xn0r8segx.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> References: <20020827104600.AA5C.LEKTU@terra.es> <5x1y8ktww7.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> <20020827114256.AA62.LEKTU@terra.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1030445755 10220 127.0.0.1 (27 Aug 2002 10:55:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 10:55:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Stefan Monnier" , "D. Goel" , emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17je0n-0002ed-00 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 12:55:53 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17jeW3-0000Rb-00 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 13:28:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17je26-0004IY-00; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 06:57:14 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17je0I-0004Gu-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 06:55:22 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17je0F-0004Gc-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 06:55:22 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.filanet.dk ([195.215.206.179]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17je0F-0004GI-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 06:55:19 -0400 Original-Received: from kfs2.cua.dk.cua.dk (kfs2.local.filanet.dk [192.168.1.182]) by mail.filanet.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id 7ED487C017; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 10:55:17 +0000 (GMT) Original-To: Juanma Barranquero In-Reply-To: <20020827114256.AA62.LEKTU@terra.es> Original-Lines: 28 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:6980 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:6980 Juanma Barranquero writes: > As all that wonderful functionality is available through C-x C-k, the > fact is that you're reserving two F-keys basically to start recording a > macro (inserting counters is useful, but secondary), to finish recording > it and to recall it. The last use I can understand, but you don't record a > macro that often. What's wrong with having a multikey binding? Nothing as such, but it makes a nice interface to have this on two function keys next to each other. Of course I biased, as I first implemented and started using kmacro 10 years ago!! Actually, back then, no function keys had default bindings (not even F1), so I put it on F1 and F2 ... and I still have it there :-) And since then, I use keyboard macros _A LOT_ -- because it is now so easy to start(!), end and call them... > > All that said, I'm not opposing in any way to using F3/F4 or F7/F8; is > not that important an issue. I'm just venting my opinion that I feel > vaguely "wrong" to steal the F-keys from the user. Nothing's stolen from the user. He is offered a service which he can refuse to use. I don't see the harm. -- Kim F. Storm http://www.cua.dk