From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: emacs floating point error during dump? Date: 12 Jul 2003 02:11:05 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <5xisq8ob8m.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> References: <200307081321.h68DLnC3009346@rum.cs.yale.edu> <200307091344.h69DiZXj014067@rum.cs.yale.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1057961618 8328 80.91.224.249 (11 Jul 2003 22:13:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 22:13:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 12 00:13:34 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19b690-00029z-00 for ; Sat, 12 Jul 2003 00:13:34 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19b6L0-0005Ph-00 for ; Sat, 12 Jul 2003 00:25:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19b69Q-0005BH-VV for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 18:14:00 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19b69A-00059Q-Ej for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 18:13:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19b68e-0004qb-8F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 18:13:43 -0400 Original-Received: from pfepa.post.tele.dk ([193.162.153.2]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19b68d-0004pw-TG; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 18:13:12 -0400 Original-Received: from kfs2.cua.dk.cua.dk (0x503e2644.bynxx3.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk [80.62.38.68]) by pfepa.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id 4BEE847FFCD; Sat, 12 Jul 2003 00:13:09 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 33 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:15549 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:15549 Sam Steingold writes: > > * In message > > * On the subject of "Re: emacs floating point error during dump?" > > * Sent on Fri, 11 Jul 2003 15:55:37 -0400 > > * Honorable Richard Stallman writes: > > > > > The reason I omitted dependencies on lisp.h was that that file > > > changes quite often, but most changes in it don't require > > > recompiling all of Emacs. > > > > This is The Wrong Thing to do. > > Correctness first, performance later. > > > > It is silly to be rigid about it. > > it is unthinkable to be lax about it. I agree with Sam -- breaking dependencies on purpose is beyond me. I really don't understand why changing a prototype should not result in recompiling things depending on that header file and I really fail to see why you deliberately want compilation to fail from time to time. After all, CVS emacs evolves daily with many people involved -- and having broken dependencies causing strange behaviour is simply a waste of everybody's time. And I don't see why you think lisp.h changes very often. If we ignore the recent changes by Stefan, it only changes every 14 days, which IMO doesn't warrent for breaking dependencies. -- Kim F. Storm http://www.cua.dk