From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suggestions for mode-line-format changes Date: 26 Aug 2002 01:41:47 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <5xhehiwlok.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> References: <5xk7mlfsvf.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> <874rdl357r.fsf@wesley.springies.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1030315419 14979 127.0.0.1 (25 Aug 2002 22:43:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 22:43:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Alan Shutko , emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17j66c-0003tU-00 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 00:43:38 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17j6b9-0000G3-00 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2002 01:15:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17j67u-0001bE-00; Sun, 25 Aug 2002 18:44:58 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17j64S-0001OL-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Aug 2002 18:41:24 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17j64Q-0001Ms-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Aug 2002 18:41:24 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.filanet.dk ([195.215.206.179]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17j64Q-0001Mn-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Aug 2002 18:41:22 -0400 Original-Received: from kfs2.cua.dk.cua.dk (unknown [10.1.82.3]) by mail.filanet.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id 6BFDE7C017; Sun, 25 Aug 2002 22:41:21 +0000 (GMT) Original-To: Bill White In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 28 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:6882 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:6882 Bill White writes: > On Fri Aug 23 2002 at 11:33, Alan Shutko said: > > > Personally, I think that the global-mode-string information is more > > important to me than the modes, and this new change is exactly > > opposite my priorities. I think that most people would probably > > agree with me. I guess most users will agree that knowing the time is important around lunch time and near the end of the day :-) > > Can we have a survey of some sort to decide whether > > to keep this change? (Right now, I yanked the entire mode-line > > setup out of the old bindings.el, but that means I lose out on > > actual improvements.) > > I'm with Alan. Since time immemorial (or, like, 1992) I've looked at > one place on the screen to get the time and date. Now it's way over > there somewhere, if I'm lucky and haven't done C-x 3. Well for many years, I've looked near the end of the mode line for the line and column number ... and they just moved too. If they had sayed put, this would never have become an issue :-) -- Kim F. Storm http://www.cua.dk